British College: Non-Muslims are "filth", "pigs" and "dogs"

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  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2142403,00.html

    The Times April 20, 2006

    Muslim students 'being taught to despise unbelievers as filth'By Sean O'Neill

    Pupils protest as college linked to Iran puts fundamentalist text on curriculum, reports our correspondent

    MUSLIM students training to be imams at a British college with strong Iranian links have complained that they are being taught fundamentalist doctrines which describe nonMuslims as “filth”.

    The Times has obtained extracts from medieval texts taught to the students in which unbelievers are likened to pigs and dogs. The texts are taught at the Hawza Ilmiyya of London, a religious school, which has a sister institution, the Islamic College for Advanced Studies (ICAS), which offers a degree validated by Middlesex University.

    The students, who have asked to remain anonymous, study their religious courses alongside the university-backed BA in Islamic studies. They spend two days a week as religious students and three days on their university course.

    The Hawza Ilmiyya and the ICAS are in the same building at Willesden High Road, northwest London — a former Church of England primary school — and share many of the same teaching staff.

    They have a single fundraising arm, the Irshad Trust, one of the managing trustees of which is Abdolhossein Moezi, an Iranian cleric and a personal representative of Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, the Iranian supreme religious leader.

    Mr Moezi is also the director of the Islamic Centre of England in Maida Vale, a large mosque and community centre that is a registered charity. Its memorandum of association, lodged with the Charity Commission, says that: “At all times at least one of the trustees shall be a representative of the Supreme Spiritual Leadership of the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

    Both the Irshad Trust and the Islamic Centre of England Ltd (ICEL) were established in 1996. Mr Moezi’s predecessor as Ayatollah Khamenei’s representative, another cleric called Mohsen Araki, was a founding trustee of both charities.

    In their first annual accounts, lodged with the Charity Commission in 1997, the charities revealed substantial donations. The Irshad Trust received gifts of £1,367,439 and the ICEL accepted an “exceptional item” of £1.2 million.

    Around the same time, the ICEL bought a former cinema in Maida Vale without a mortgage. Since then it has received between £1 million and £1.7 million in donations each year which, it says, come from British and overseas donors. The centre declined to say if any of its money came from Iran.

    Since 2000, its accountants have recorded in their auditors’ report on the charity’s accounts that they have limited evidence about the source of donations.

    The links between the two charities and Iran are strong. The final three years of the eight-year Hawza Ilmiyya course are spent studying in colleges in the holy city of Qom, the power base of Iran’s religious leaders.

    The text that has upset some students is the core work in their Introduction to Islamic Law class and was written by Muhaqqiq al-Hilli, a 13thcentury scholar. The Hawza Ilmiyya website states that “the module aims to familiarise the student with the basic rules of Islamic law as structured by al-Hilli”.

    Besides likening unbelievers to filth, the al-Hilli text includes a chapter on jihad, setting down the conditions under which Muslims are supposed to fight Jews and Christians.

    The text is one of a number of books that some students say they find “disturbing” and “very worrying”. Their spokesman told The Times: “They are being exposed to very literalist interpretations of the Koran. These are interpretations that would not be recognised by

    80 or 90 per cent of Muslims, but they are being taught in this school.

    “A lot of people in the Muslim community are very concerned about this. We need to urgently re-examine the kind of material that is being taught here and in other colleges in Britain.”

    Mohammed Saeed Bahmanpour, who teaches in both the Hawza and the ICAS, confirmed that al-Hilli text was used, but denied that it was taught as doctrine. He said that, although the book was a key work in the jurisprudence class, its prescriptions were not taught as law. When he taught from it, he omitted the impurity chapter, he said.

    Dr Bahmanpour said: “We just read the text and translate for them, but as I said I do not deal with the book on purity. We have left that to the discretion of the teacher whether he wants to teach it or not.

    “The idea is not to teach them jurisprudence because most of the fatwas of Muhaqiq are not actually conforming with the fatwa of our modern jurists. The idea is that they would be able to read classical texts and that is all.”

    Dr Bahmanpour said that Mr Moezi had no educational role at either the ICAS or Hawza Ilmiyya. Mr Moezi has been the representative in Britain of Ayatollah Khamenei since 2004 when he also succeeded Mr Araki in the role and as a trustee of the ICEL and the Irshad Trust.

    The Islamic centre’s website reports Ayatollah Khamenei’s speeches and activities prominently and one of the first sites listed under its links section is the supreme leader’s homepage.

    A spokeswoman for the ICEL also confirmed its links with the Iran’s spiritual leadership but said the centre was a purely religious organisation.

    Middlesex University, which accredits the ICAS course but not the Hawza Ilmiyya, said: “The BA in Islamic studies offered by the Islamic College of Advanced Studies is validated by Middlesex University.

    “This means that Middlesex ensures that the academic standards of this particular programme are appropriate, the curriculum delivers to the required standards, learning and teaching methods allow achievement of standards.”

    THE DOCTRINE

    ‘The water left over in the container after any type of animal has drunk from it is considered clean and pure apart from the left over of a dog, a pig, and a disbeliever’

    ‘There are ten types of filth and impurities: urine, faeces, semen, carrion, blood of carrion, dogs, pigs, disbelievers’

    ‘When a dog, a pig, or a disbeliever touches or comes in contact with the clothes or body [of a Muslim] while he [the disbeliever] is wet, it becomes obligatory- compulsory upon him [the Muslim] to wash and clean that part which came in contact with the disbeliever’

    From the al-Hilli text

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    there is going to be trouble -it may take 5 years, it may take 10 or longer - but this sort of filth can not be tolerated and must be rooted out

  • XJW4EVR
    XJW4EVR

    Islam is a religion of peace!

    Yeah, right! If you buy that, I got ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

  • Dr Jekyll
    Dr Jekyll

    there is a lot of talk over here in the UK about state funded Religious schools, in particular about funding Muslim and fundi Christian schools. The general consensus seems to be that state funded religious schools shouldn't be allowed but the gov wants them because students achieve better results at them and the pupils end up coming away with a sense of what is morally right and wrong. This is something the government feels is lacking at secular schools. This article sounds like something that's been put out to cause controversy and sink the governments plans for state funded Muslim schools

  • Gill
    Gill

    Whenever I read anything like that it reminds me of Enoch Powells 'prophetic' Rivers of Blood speech, in which he claimed that because of uncontrolled immigration the streets of Britain would run with blood.

    It brings a shiver down my spine. Apparantly 1 in 6 Britons would consider voting for the British National Party now, which is pretty scary, as they are rather intolerant.

    In a way, the political correctness of the British government and its 'politeness' to other religions and races that would happily protest on our streets (the muslims) wanting to behead people and kill people for mocking an ancient prophet has led to a lot of unhappiness. Even those who are not English from birth but have lived here for donkeys years are now complaining about how extremist religions are being given free reign just so not to offend them.

    I'm afraid the British Government, must now show that it will not tolerate this kind of behaviour and sentiment. Heaven forbid that Enoch Powell ever becomes a REAL prophet.

  • ColdRedRain
    ColdRedRain

    Finally, Muslims are calling out their own and trying to clean up their own problems.

  • lowden
    lowden

    I know of many good muslims, but......there are also lots of bad ones too, right wing fundamentalists. There are things going on here in Britain that are reeeeally creepy.

    Peace

    Lowden

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    I think I agree with Dr Jekyll about this article being hyped to cause controversy. There is at least one glaring example that this may be the case:

    The Hawza Ilmiyya and the ICAS are in the same building at Willesden High Road, northwest London — a former Church of England primary school — and share many of the same teaching staff.

    See how these Muslim organisations teaching extremist views are even taking over our former Church schools, a further example of the erosion of the British way of life? - The scandal of it! (Thing we forget here is to ask why there is no need for church schools any more!).

    I also find the article vague about exactly what the text is being used for - are they using it to teach that this is how 'Shariah Law' must/should be observed or is it being used as an example of a stage of the development of genuine Shariah?

    I'm studying Christian church history as part of my degree. This has brought me into contact with the works of eminent theologians such as Martin Luther - an avid hater of the Jews (and from whom it has been suggested that Hitler drew some of his reasons for implementing their extermination). So, by the same token, just because I've read Luther, does that mean I am commanded to hate the Jews or do I see his vitriol as a stage in church history from which I should learn and develop?

    Another outlook I have is that it's articles like this which actually give the BNP their ammo and excuse to exist. It sometimes makes me wonder if something is being deliberately orchestrated.

  • stillajwexelder
  • greendawn
    greendawn

    Islam is not a religion of peace they expanded through war and augmented their numbers by forcing most indivduals in the conquered nations to convert to Islam. It's not true what the Moslems say that they embraced Islam out of their own free will, they were forced to do it.

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