My dignity, which I am still discovering.
What did you take with you when you left the organization?
I took nothing but looked forward to ....potential
A good knowledge of the bible, I can quote with the best of them.
Sorry, but I can't help picking on this one, - seeing as the knowledge comes from the wtbts, where they seek to nail Him down before they lift Him up.
Some old books out of the library.......could be worth a bit on ebay!!!
I took bad memories of Nathan Knorr and the mean people at Bethel and in the congregations that I served in. That was way back in the seventies and I am just talking about it with people on the internet now. I feel like I am returning from some kind of time warp where the people have all changed but the stories are the same. My first semester in college right out of Bethel I was attending college, I felt like I was walking on the moon my whole life a witness and now I was going to college with 'worldly people' and now I got called on to give an extemperaneous speech in front of a class full of students. I thought I would freeze but I got up and enjoyed it. I guess I did take one skill out of the JW's.
I took with me an aversion to dimwitted men in cheap suits who by day toil as janitors and by night are throwing about the power and control that they can't obtain in the real world in a real organization of any merit or substance because they are in fact -- dimwits.
Limbo, what are you really trying to say? LOL!
I give hour long presentations now for my job with no notes whatsoever, and I don't get the least bit nervous. I actually think it's fun.
How do you explain the knotheads in the congos who never became good or even decent speakers?
Coffee, I think you would have had the ability to do well in any circumstances. You are good at what you do in spite of the WTS, not because of it. IMHO.
BizzyBee (love the name)
You're probably right...but I never had the fear of going door to door...or public speaking or sales because I started at age 4... so it was part of me growing up.
Regarding those that never became good speakers, despite the Ministry School, there are a number of possible explanations:
- One factor could be personal application i.e. as with all learning, you only get out of it what you put into it. (Were all Ministry School students necessarily interested in actually becoming good speakers? )
- Others may have needed more advanced training in Public Speaking than that offered by the Ministry School.
- Still others would have never made good public speakers, no matter what the standard of training offered (One poster has used the term "knotheads"!)
By virtue of my upbringing and geographical location, I was not by nature any sort of a speaker - whether public or otherwise.. (Ones who were present when I gave my first ever No.2 Talk were happy to remind me about that decades after the event!) Well before I finally broke with the borg, the consensus by everyone was that I was by then a good speaker ( OK - I know that I am not being modest in making that statement. I am, however, being accurate.)
Since breaking with them 11 years ago, I have continued to have no difficulty in speaking to an audience. That has included some tense scenes, as in last July;when I had to face down a crowd of angry, striking workers.
I have never had any other training in Public Speaking other than the Ministry School - so I can only conclude that I gained my skills from that source.
Mind you - that is the one and only benefit that I took away from the JWs:
- and I would be quick to add that it was a bloody expensive course in Public Speaking!
My Crazy Aunt Betty used to steal one chair per week. After 200 weeks there wasn't any where to sit!