Elders Meeting (page 5)

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If you don't want the meeting, if not comfortable, then cancel.

But...

DON'T TELL THE ELDER'S!!!!!

Just make yourself scarce on Saturday, from early to late. Leave town, go to the amusement park, whatever. And don't take your cellphone with you.

These self-appointed older men have already used persuasion to get you to schedule a meeting you don't want; sounds like you are probably not ready for their meeting (no offense intended, I'm just being practical).

Now, is simply dissappearing on Saturday mean and/or cowardly? NO, it is simply.... SPIRITUAL WARFARE.... Yeah, that's the ticket!

TallTexan

Wednesday/Rabbit,

Sorry if I caused any issues there with my comments. No, I would never presume to tell anyone how to handle it because it is a personal matter. Like I said, I have so many friends and family in the 'trooth' that when I do make my move, I'll lose a lot of them and it will be personally devastating. I'm just thankful that I've found a whole new group of friends here whom I don't have to pretend with or lie to. You're right, I wasn't aware that there were some that called you 'faders, cowards', etc. because you wouldn't meet w/ the 'bros'. That was definitely not my intention. Personally, when I make my break, I don't want there to be any confusion about where I stand so I don't have to listen to everyone I know ask me 'when are you going back to meetings' or try to pawn off the latest propaganda, er, I mean, literature on me. But again, that's just me and I never meant any disrespect to anyone who chooses to handle it differently.

On a side note, to anyone who does decide to meet with them, I would DEFINITELY record it. That way, when they try to slander you in the congregation you can mail a tape to everyone in the hall with the REAL truth...lol. (A little extreme, I know, but wouldn't it be fun?) Oh wait - I forgot - 'Jehovah's people' don't engage in harmful gossip, divisions, cliques, or slander.....<oooohhhhmmm...as brainwashing takes effect...>

Now, let's see if I can go stick my foot in my mouth again...lol.

New Castles

Thanks everyone for listening and answering....I appreciate everyones input.. You all Rock!!!!!

Doubtfully Yours

Plan somethinig fun to do on the day you were supposed to meet them. Be a 'no show'.

DY

Rabbit

TallTexan:

Now, let's see if I can go stick my foot in my mouth again...lol.

Awww, as long as your feet are not real furry...it's no big deal, lol. I''m spittin' hair out all the time. lol

Everyone's advice is usually good and helpful, you explained both ways very well by the 2nd post, that showed you are fair-minded, so don't worry. Read some more on the board and you'll surely say, Damn...can't believe he/she said that...glad I didn't!

On recording stuff : In an Elders meeting, according to their "Secret Elder's Manual"...recorders are not allowed under any circumstances. They would not like their ill-chosen words to come back and bite'em in the A$$ !

In a meeting like that of my own -- I did "wear a wire" without their knowledge...it helped me to reconstruct what everyone was saying, so I could do a transcript. I never had to "use" against them, but, I figured in case I needed to, I could get their attention.

However............here is something you might be very careful about what you DO with the recordings you make.

1. In a conversation...at least one of the persons involved, MUST be aware that it's being recorded.

2. If no one is aware...there MUST be an audible beep that can be heard by all parties, the interval is between 10 - 15 seconds between beeps,

3. Of course, both or all parties can agree to be recorded.

4. Here is the BIGGIE...if you allow other people (not on the recording) to hear the tapes...it could be considered as Wire-Tapping. This could be a FELONY.

5. If you were in a Court Case and told a judge you had recordings, it's OK, but, the Judge would have to make a ruling on whether you can use it and how.

So, be careful...

A footnote: Towards the end of the meeting...I heard and felt a SNAP ...the tape hit the end and shut-off ! I cannot believe they didn't figure it out, as soon as I heard it I started 'popping' my knuckles to divert their attention. I thought I was going to get into a wrestling match in that library ! lol

XQsThaiPoes

I am not giving legal adivce. But bring a unilateral nondisclosure for counciling. Make um sign it or dont have the meeting. You can grab a generic one from alomst any councilors or doctors office and fiddle with it until it looks right to you. Then plop it down in front of them.

I am not give any legal advice just excercising my oppinion. If they can make you sign all that blood stuff what do they have to hid with a simple NDA that every legitimate professional councilor and doctors office use every eday. IMO this should scare them about you as much as you are scared about them. Mutual respect is good in these type of relationships.

None of this is legal advice.

nhagfan

These elders think people r dumb- I quit after 32 years--I read cc and there were other things--I had a lot of doubts--I told the po i had doubts--I told him also about doubting Thomas having doubts too--And doubting Thomas walked with Jesus--Jesus didnt come down on him--They wont meet me at my house one on one--There has to be two--I wonder why? I know why--They want that 2 witness to use on me at a judical comitee--They dont know that i know all these things

tazmaniac

They were just waiting for you to return. You musta been a subject for the agenda on one of the elders meetings.

jaredg

the elders want to meet with me too. i'm just going to tell them NO and i have made my decision not to get reinstated. i should have never put in that stupid lie of a reinstatement letter

XQsThaiPoes

Or just ask them to do it no questions asked no obligations it would be halarious to see if they would do it. Tell them I dont want to go to a hall where you are going to be treated like dirt before they welcome you back "with open arms". Even if you dont wana be a JW in any form or fashion It would be interesting to test the waters for every one else. You can be reckless if you have nothing to loose.

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