"Some" of the annointed are not yet "sealed" Huh?

by gumby 42 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  gumby

  According to the "Revelation - it's Grand Climax" book on page 116 par.9

  It says that when jesus annointed ones have been tried and sifted, then they will recieve a "permanent mark' on their forehead that they have been tried and found worthy. They can't then lose their salvation. However, it says that when the 'sealing is complete", then Jesus will unleash the 4 winds of tribulation. In other words, when the Great tribulation begins, the sealing will have been complete in it's finality.

  This means that "some" are annointed as of now, but have not been tried yet and sealed and will still fall away.....which is why armageddon isn't here yet since the sealing comes BEFORE armageddon.

  So, if there are some 8,000 annointed( but not yet sealed) left on earth....who are they? Why and how did they become annointed if they were not tried and sifted first.... instead of waiting till jehovah annoints them, then tries them with the chance they may fail and lose their annointing?

  It's obvious that some are going to lose their reward....or else armageddon would be here since all will have been sealed when it starts.....according to their own words.......so be on the watchout for sister faithfulforfiftyyears when she quits drinkin the vino& saltines at the Kingdom Hall

  Gumby.....who thinks annointed dubs are usually a few beers short of a six-pac
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  Honesty

  Huh....?

  2 Cor 1:21-22 Now the One who confirms us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, is God; He has also sealed us and given us the Spirit as a down payment in our hearts.

  Eph 1:13-14 In Him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation—in Him when you believed—were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit. He is the down payment of our inheritance, for the redemption of the possession, to the praise of His glory.

  Eph 4:30 And don’t grieve God’s Holy Spirit, who sealed you for the day of redemption.

  All it takes is a 3rd grade education to understand the above scriptures.
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  gumby

  
  Yeah but....Rev. 2:10 makes a qualification....they must remain faithful till death....see also Rom 8: 15-17, matt. 10:22 Here's the entire paragraph for you to chew on. 9 "Provided we suffer together"—what does that mean? In order to receive the crown of life, anointed Christians must endure, faithful even to death. (Revelation 2:10) It is not a matter of ‘once saved, always saved.’ (Matthew 10:22; Luke 13:24) Rather, they are admonished: "Do your utmost to make the calling and choosing of you sure for yourselves." Like the apostle Paul, ultimately they must be able to say: "I have fought the fine fight, I have run the course to the finish, I have observed the faith." (2 Peter 1:10, 11; 2 Timothy 4:7, 8) So here on earth the testing and sifting of the remaining spirit-begotten sons of God must go on until Jesus and his accompanying angels will have firmly implanted the seal ‘in the forehead’ of all of these, identifying them conclusively, irrevocably, as tried and faithful "slaves of our God." That seal then becomes a permanent mark. Evidently, when the four winds of tribulation are unleashed, all of spiritual Israel will have been sealed in finality, even though a few will still be alive in the flesh. (Matthew 24:13; Revelation 19:7) The entire membership will be complete!—Romans 11:25, 26.

  Gumby
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  ozziepost

  Makes you wish they'd hurry up and die to get it all over with, eh?
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  dvw

  this may not be exactly on topic. (sorry) but, ive thought for a while, that as the old decrepit annointed's begin to get fewer and fewer: there could be a "miraculous" infusion of new, YOUNG annointed's. maybe the "sealing" is not as far along as we thought. it would kill two birds with one stone. the gb. could be revitalized with fresh, sharp, non-senile members, plus it will give the wts. decades before it finds itself in the same position it is now. what would they do if ALL the annointeds are dead and the end hasnt come. they cant let this happen. there is no provision for a watchtower without the annointed. who would be the "channel" then? be on the watch for an "infusion" of new annointed's...........or should i say... appointed's ?
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  IronClaw

  All it takes is a 3rd grade education to understand the above scriptures.

  Whooooooa that was close.

  Doesn't any education at all to see all the fallacies in the Climax book.
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  ozziepost

  Doesn't any education at all to see all the fallacies in the Climax book.

  Well, just a little - they've gotta be able to read it!

  OK, some of the words anyway.
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  IronClaw

  Why read it Ozzie. All you have to do is look at the pictures. A picture is worth a 1000 144,000 words.
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  gumby

  Fred Franz had gotten to the point of walking up the bethel stairs and talking to his two brown shoes by the time he wrote the climax book. It's a wonder we studied it 216 times.

  Gumby
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  ozziepost

  studied it 216 times

  antitypically, of course!