Robert_V_Frazier
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Anyone heard of Watchtower policy change concerning pedophiles
by Robert_V_Frazier ini'm passing this along from someone else on another discussion board.
the claim of any substantive change in the policy on pedophiles is news to me.
can anybody verify or falsify this claim?.
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Disfellowshipped for celebrating holidays?
by Robert_V_Frazier indoes anyone know of any specific cases of jehovah's witnesses who were disfellowshipped because of celebrating any of the forbidden holidays -- christmas, easter, birthdays, etc?
i have a discussion going with a jehovah's witness who claims that he doesn't know of anyone ever being dfed over that.. thanks in advance,.
robert v frazier
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"They have NEVER lied"
by Robert_V_Frazier inin this post over at carm, http://tinyurl.com/84ntg a jw from australia who goes by the handle "corvus" made a rather audacious claim:[the society] have never lied to, mislead or decieved anyone - they have made mistakes.. .
in response, i listed four lies that the society has made, three of which are easily investigated and proven to be lies.
1) the cover story that beth-sarim was built to house resurrected old testament saints who were coming back in 1925, when in fact, the house was built to get rutherford away from bethel.
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HIPAA vs Theocracy -- Can JW's Be Trusted?
by Robert_V_Frazier in*** w87 9/1 pp.
12-15 a time to speakwhen?
a time to speakwhen?.
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"How is the Kingdom Hall abusive?"
by Robert_V_Frazier insometimes i get a question that just stuns me.
this one was from a self-described "ex-jw" who says he was disfellowshipped for some ethical lapse or some such.
he thinks there's nothing at all wrong with the watchtower society, just something wrong with him.
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WT policy of reporting abuse to authorities? 1988 letter?
by Robert_V_Frazier inin the vicki boer trial transcript, this paragraph took me completely by surprise:.
[68] one of the first things sheldon longworth did upon hearing the plaintiffs first disclosure was to consult the 1988 watchtower letter setting out the policy for dealing with cases of sexual abuse of children.
likewise, brian cairns turned to this document immediately after the december 29 meeting to determine what should be done.
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Documenting the 2-witness rule applies to child abuse
by Robert_V_Frazier inover at carm, corvus the jw defender from australia is loudly proclaiming that the two-witness rule is never applied when an allegation of child abuse is made.
i pointed out in some detail that the nov. 1, 1995 [i]watchtower[/i] article "comfort for those with a 'stricken spirit'", in the section "what can elders do?
" most definitely does teach that:
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JW contribution to human thought
by Robert_V_Frazier ini think i've discovered one real contribution to human thought, specifically logic, that has been made by the watchtower bible and tract society in general and every single jehovah's witness who has ever debated about the nwt in particular.. .
they've invented a new logical fallacy.. .
i thought it could use a spiffy latin tag, so i've called it the aliquis alicubi fallacy.
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A modest proposal
by Robert_V_Frazier inno, all of you jonathan swift fans, i'm not proposing that we start eating jw's.
they probably taste terrible, anyway.. .
i propose that the society extend its disfellowshipping policy, and start formally disfellowshipping "old light" expired dogmas.
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Does anybody here have the 1982 edition of You Can Live Forever?
by Robert_V_Frazier ini'd like to get the complete text of page 179, where it used to say that the people of sodom and gomorrah would be resurrected, but in the 1989 edition, they changed their minds and said that these people would not be.
if possible, i'd like to see the paragraph before the change, the paragraph after, and all the text that is different.
i've found this much on the internet:you can live forever in paradise on earth, 1982, first ed., p. 179, paragraph 9. .