Topics Started by TheStumbler

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The reality of "shunning" and character assasination highlighted at the Australian Royal Commission
by stuckinarut2 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
once again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!

they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!

then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
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Evolution is not even a theory! So says the WTBTS writing dept!!
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
has anyone read the new awake ragazine??

it's a doozy!!

i thought we had a thread concerning this subject, but i can't find it.
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Creationism emails from a JW
by TheStumbler in
1. watchtower
2. bible
earlier this year, i received an email from a jw family member with a link to this video:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ruhkgqjug.

i wrote a long reply debunking the video (mostly copying talkorigins info).
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Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc
by cofty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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The frustration of talking to a person with a closed mind
by TheStumbler in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
okay, this is going to be a bit of a general rant.

i had a long conversation with a jw elder recently about shunning and evolution.

i became qunite frustrated with the conversation and admitted this at the time.
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JWs: not creationists but believe in creation...
by TheStumbler in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i've been having a bit of an email exchange with elder dad and i need some advice.

i thought i was getting through to him but i think my criticism and tone became a bit too strident in my last email and now he thinks that i am attacking him personally.

i think he has dismissed everything i said because he perceived me as 'overally critical, and rude.. .
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I dropped TTATT to some door knockers today
by TheStumbler in
1. watchtower
2. bible
two jws came to my door today and i dropped a few truths bombs on them.

i thought i'd share my account of how the conversation went.. .

i was in the yard doing some weeding when two gentlemen walked through the gate.
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My mother tried to "friend"me...my reply
by mzmmom in
1. jw
2. experiences
so strange that last night my experience was bothering me so much i posted about it here.

this morning my mother sent me a friend request after 20 months of no communication from her.

i replied in a message.. this is what i wrote:.
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Question for apostates!
by TheStumbler in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have a question.. the conventional wisdom seems to be that to 'convert' a jehovah's witness (or get them to see ttatt) you have to ask questions that they cannot answer and engage with their true personality not their 'cult personality'.. intellectual arguments tend to fall flat because jws (who do not already have personal doubts) believe they already know the absolute truth so anything contrary to that truth is nessecarily wrong.

any criticism of their beliefs will be seen as an attack or persecution and will be dismissed as flawed 'human thinking' or 'apostate lies'.. to 'true believers' any amount of contrary evidence and illogical inconsistencies in their beliefs can be dismissed or explained away.

their starting point is that they have special knowledge of absolute truth and all evidence and arguments are then weighed against this preconceived belief.. here is my question.
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by TheStumbler in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have a question.. the conventional wisdom seems to be that to 'convert' a jehovah's witness (or get them to see ttatt) you have to ask questions that they cannot answer and engage with their true personality not their 'cult personality'.. intellectual arguments tend to fall flat because jws (who do not already have personal doubts) believe they already know the absolute truth so anything contrary to that truth is nessecarily wrong.

any criticism of their beliefs will be seen as an attack or persecution and will be dismissed as flawed 'human thinking' or 'apostate lies'.. to 'true believers' any amount of contrary evidence and illogical inconsistencies in their beliefs can be dismissed or explained away.

their starting point is that they have special knowledge of absolute truth and all evidence and arguments are then weighed against this preconceived belief.. here is my question.