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Are some JWs justified in staying in the org?
by greendawn in
1. jw
2. experiences
most of us left the organisation because we could no longer stand one or other aspect of it, perhaps its very dictatorial administration, the disappointment due to the false promises and vain hopes raised by its leadership, disagreement with the blood ban or pedophile and shunning policies, the feel one gets that this is a business and not a religious organisation manipulating its members to its own profit etc etc.

these are of course valid reasons for rejecting this religion and refusing to identify with it but do the jws who stay in have a valid argument for rejecting leaving the org?

they will say: "ok our religion, our society has its flaws but what human society doesn't?
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Lack of connection to apostolic church
by greendawn in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the jws claim they are the true christian religion even though they only appeared suddenly and very recently.

but what is it that connects them with the early apostolic church so as to make it possible for them to claim they are its successors?.

indeed if we check out their history we see that their immediate predecessors and teachers the adventists were rejected by them as a false religion, they believed in hellfire and the immortality of the soul.
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The Governing Body and the Jerusalem Church
by greendawn in
1. jw
2. friends
to justify concentrating all authority in their hands the handful of gb members resorted once more to alchemies.

the jerusalem church leaders were supposedly the gb in the early church and today they just resurrected that institution in their religion.. what they conveniently do not mention is that this supposed gb did not by any stretch of the imagination centralise power in its hands in the way that they have done.

numerous christians, prophecied and taught without any reference to any gb in jerusalem, merely by the motivation of the holy spirit.
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Do good works by JWs count for anything?
by greendawn in
1. watchtower
2. medical
we all know that the wts like so many other cults is an exploitative organisation that works with a great depth of deception that's not easy for many to grasp.

but will the works done by jws for this religion count in their favour if they were done in good faith?

at least the ones that didn't directly harm anyone?
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Thank god for cheese
by greendawn in
1. jw
2. friends
one amazing thing is that out of just three kinds of milk the milk of cow, ewe and goat hundreds if not over a thousand different kinds of cheese are made around the world.

yellow or white, hard or soft, mouldy or not mouldy, strong tasting or bland.

cheddar, gruyere, gouda, maasdamer, parmesan, feta, roquefort, stilton, brie and scores more.
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The WTS deprogramming
by greendawn in
1. jw
2. friends
does anyone have any interesting and helpful details regarding what this deprogramming involves?

we always here one should deprogram but what exactly does it involve what could be some useful tips to facilitate this process?

i was reading recently in the psychological studies of jung about the concept of the shadow the part of our mind that contains all the repressed and rejected material, some of it was rightly repressed (eg the desire to steal from, or otherwise harm innocent people) and some not.
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USA parts not worth visiting
by greendawn in
1. jw
2. friends
for a tourist that intends to visit the usa and engage in travelling around and sightseeing, what places in that country would you advise will be a waste of time to visit?
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The original Jewish Christian church, what happened to it?
by greendawn in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the christian church began as an entirely jewish enterprise yet today there is no such a thing as a christian jewish church certainly not one that has an uninterrupted line going back to apostolic times.

it is the gentile one that continues to this day.

so isn't that surprising?
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Best birthday present
by greendawn in
1. jw
2. friends
what was the best birhday present you ever had?

i know many here only began celebrating birthdays recently or perhaps haven't yet started due to the stupid jw ban on something that is in fact totally innocent and harmless.

for me it was food.
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Resurrection soon after armageddon or 1000 years after it?
by greendawn in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
can anyone explain why the wts claims that faithful dubs will be resurrected soon after armageddon when to the contrary the book of revelation plainly states that the resurrection of anyone other than the saints will occur after 1000 years?

that is 1000 years after the saints begin ruling on earth which will occur at or shortly before armageddon.

let's remember that rightly or wrongly most dubs do not believe that they are in the class of the saints or anointed as they call them.