greendawn
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Why did we failed to see the rather obvious signs?
by greendawn inwhen we decided to accept the jws something drew us to them perhaps the belief that they had the truth and they could provide a refuge from the so called armageddon.
or it could be the need to belong somewhere or to associate with (ostensibly) spiritual people as was the case with me.
but why (unlike many other interested persons) did we miss the many rather obvious signs that there was something fundmentally wrong with this organisation so as to save ourselves a lot of trouble in the future when deciding to leave it?
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The WTS fornicating with CESNUR
by greendawn inthe wts is a member of cesnur an organisation that seeks to promote new religions and to oppose anti cult actions by governments on the grounds that these are attacks on personal and religious freedom.
surprise surprise the other members of this organisation make up a strange brood: mormons, scientologists, new agers, ramtha's school of ancient wisdom, etc.
clearly the wts that criticises mainstream christianity so much chooses to join forces with such dubious religions in cesnur.
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Are some JWs justified in staying in the org?
by greendawn inmost of us left the organisation because we could no longer stand one or other aspect of it, perhaps its very dictatorial administration, the disappointment due to the false promises and vain hopes raised by its leadership, disagreement with the blood ban or pedophile and shunning policies, the feel one gets that this is a business and not a religious organisation manipulating its members to its own profit etc etc.
these are of course valid reasons for rejecting this religion and refusing to identify with it but do the jws who stay in have a valid argument for rejecting leaving the org?
they will say: "ok our religion, our society has its flaws but what human society doesn't?
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Your favourite PC games?
by greendawn inwhat are your favourite computer games?
i want to buy some so what do you recommend?
i think simulation games such as those explaining how ancient civilisations worked are very educational and useful.
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Any one enjoys gardening?
by greendawn inin the new ground floor flat that i purchased there is a garden area outside which is l shaped each leg being about 15 by 2 metres or about 50 by 7 feet (the rest of the outside is paved) and as the weather got better i planted a lot of the usual vegetables, aubergines, yellow peppers, tomatoes, courgettes, strawberries, cucumbers, runner beans a total of about 50 plants, and many flowers.
if all goes well i will not be buying much vegetables this summer.
i mixed in natural manure two months ago to give it time to get digested and hope i will not need to use any chemical pesticides.
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Evaluating Raymond Franz
by greendawn inwhat do you think of ray(mond) franz?
i have seen here some people critisise him as not being a really heartfelt opponent of the wts, but my view is that he was quite honest about his expressed motives against the cult.
with his revelations he gave a lot of momentum to the ex jw movement (the apostate organisation according to the jws) and offered valuable assistance to those seeking to shake off the ideological and social dependance on the oppressive cult.
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The elders serving whose interests?
by greendawn inthe wts claims that the elders are an arrangement by jehovah to lovingly take care of his flock.
this is a typically misleading statement by the fds using the usual smooth talking and references to a divine connection to deceive the r&f.
neither the elders are jehovah's arrangement nor the jws are jehovah's flock.
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Lack of connection to apostolic church
by greendawn inthe jws claim they are the true christian religion even though they only appeared suddenly and very recently.
but what is it that connects them with the early apostolic church so as to make it possible for them to claim they are its successors?.
indeed if we check out their history we see that their immediate predecessors and teachers the adventists were rejected by them as a false religion, they believed in hellfire and the immortality of the soul.
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The Governing Body and the Jerusalem Church
by greendawn into justify concentrating all authority in their hands the handful of gb members resorted once more to alchemies.
the jerusalem church leaders were supposedly the gb in the early church and today they just resurrected that institution in their religion.. what they conveniently do not mention is that this supposed gb did not by any stretch of the imagination centralise power in its hands in the way that they have done.
numerous christians, prophecied and taught without any reference to any gb in jerusalem, merely by the motivation of the holy spirit.
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Do good works by JWs count for anything?
by greendawn inwe all know that the wts like so many other cults is an exploitative organisation that works with a great depth of deception that's not easy for many to grasp.
but will the works done by jws for this religion count in their favour if they were done in good faith?
at least the ones that didn't directly harm anyone?