Watchtower Moves In For Kill On silentlambs

by silentlambs 141 Replies latest jw friends

  • Nowfree
    Nowfree

    Bill,

    Have you informed Panorama? They do updates on their programmes to keep audiences informed of the repercussions of their investigations.

    I also wonder whether the WTS will use this as an opportune time to "clean up" all those who have stopped attending meetings, but are not DA or DF, cos technically speaking all those (including me!!) are not to be shunned (although I can't honestly tell the difference!! They shun whatever!!)

    If that was happening in the UK you could shout "Human Rights Act", and they wouldn't stand a cat in hells chance of continuing with their JC.

    I wrote to my MP with a copy of the August KM about disfellowshipped ones and how they are to be treated. I explained that this was why most witnesses do not come forward about cases of abuse, because of the threat of disfellowshipping. So this has now proved it!! (Like we didn't know already!!)

    Make sure you have lawyers, recording devices and the media with you. They may well DF or DA you in your absence, but it will be recorded by the media and will be yet ANOTHER nail in the JW coffin!

    Nowfree

  • alamb
    alamb

    Wasn't Jesus' trial at night...so the crooked could hide their actions?

    I would say I was disgusted..once again...but they can no longer surprise me. Bill, know that many are with you at heart.

  • Bodhisattva
    Bodhisattva

    Bill, do you know who the elder chairing the meeting will be? Any chance it is the pedophile whose appointment you have opposed? That would raise some eyebrows!

  • Preston
    Preston

    I'm very sorry Bill that you have to go through this, also considering that fact that religious zealots like Fred Hall and You Know are gleefully awaiting your public shaming. Thank God for the worldly court systems...

  • Focus
    Focus

    Various people have asked about rules at a jW judicial Murder, which is what Bill Bowen faces.

    Here are the main written ones. The unwritten ones - which always matter MUCH more in practise - in brave Bill's case are "Cut off, Kill, Cover-Up".

    I have emphasized the key extracts of the "Law from Brooklyn". The intelligent reader will understand EXACTLY why I have highlighted what I have!

    'PAY ATTENTION TO YOURSELVES AND TO ALL THE FLOCK' ACTS 20:28
    Kingdom Ministry School Textbook
    (c) 1991 WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF PENNSYLVANIA All rights reserved
    Publishers
    WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF NEW YORK, INC. INTERNATIONAL BIBLE STUDENTS ASSOCIATION Brooklyn, New York, U.S.A.
    Pages 107-113
    UNIT 5 (b) Sharing on a Judicial Committee
    'When having a hearing between your brothers, you must judge with righteousness. ' (Deut. 1:16) It is a serious responsibility to judge matters that affect people's lives and relationships with others. Elders must have a reasonably complete picture when judging a matter so that their decisions will not be based on partial knowledge or on personal feelings. They also need heavenly wisdom in order to make proper application of God's Word and to determine how far their showing mercy should extend. (Prov. 28:13; Jas. 2:13) They must treat every person with impartiality at all times and desire that the spiritually ill become well again, since a failure in this regard is unjust and violates the law of love.I Tim. 5:21; Jas. 2:1-9; 5:14, 15; w77 3/1 pp. 146-52.
    Elders Are Teachers and Judges As 'Judge of all the earth,' Jehovah provides fatherly correction and discipline whenever needed. (Gen. 18:25; Heb. 12:5, 6) He has raised up elders to serve as counselors and judges. (Isa. 1:26) By judging in righteousness, you may turn others back from a sinful course. (Prov. 14:12;Jer. 10:23, 24) God's Word is the basis for needed correction. (2 Tim. 3:14-17) The responsibility of elders involves more than handling Judicial matters. You must also teach, making clear what God requires. Encourage the rendering of whole-souled service to God and faithful obedience to his righteous principles.
    Applying Jesus' Counsel on Handling Certain Wrongs
    Some accusations involve minor misunderstandings that should be handled on a personal basis. (Matt. 5:23, 24; 6:12, 14; Eph. 4:25-27) At Matthew 18:15-17 Jesus gave counsel on handling serious wrongs that might be settled on a personal basis. (w81 9/15 pp. 17-20; om pp. 142-5) Jesus' counsel concerns serious sins committed against one personally, such as fraud or slandersins serious enough to lead to a person's being expelled from the congregation. The person who believes he has been wronged takes the first step toward resolving the matter; elders may encourage him to do this.(Matt. 18:15) The second step involves taking one or two persons with him to speak with the individual. (Matt. 18:16) These should preferably be witnesses of the alleged wrongdoing or respected brothers, usually elders, who can examine the evidence and offer counsel for resolving the matter. They also become witnesses to the evidence presented in the discussion. The person who believes he has been wronged takes the third step, bringing the matter to the congregation, as a last resort. (Matt. 18:17) If the congregation elders are unable to bring a wrongdoer to his senses, he is to be treated 'as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.' The unrepentant wrongdoer would be expelled (disfellowshipped) from the congregation.
    The Judicial Committee
    Other cases of serious wrongdoing require special attention by the elders in order to determine what is needed to help the repentant wrongdoer and to preserve the spiritual health of all in the congregation. These include such sins as adultery, fornication, apostasy, and drunkenness. (See Unit 5 (a), pages 92-6.) Before forming a committee, elders determine if the accusation has substance. It must Scripturally be an offense serious enough to result in disfellowshipping. There must be either two witnesses or a confession of wrongdoing. If there is not enough evidence to form a committee but serious questions have been raised, two elders may be assigned to investigate the matter. If a judicial committee is needed, elders who are present at the Kingdom Hall should determine which elders will serve on the committee and which one will be chairman. The elders will take into consideration which elders are best qualified to handle the particular type of case that has arisen. (km 9/77 pp. 5-6) It is usually best for newer elders to serve first with more experienced ones. In a complex case, a judicial committee need not be limited to three members; it may warrant having four or even five experienced elders serve. More than one judicial committee may be operating at the same time in a congregation, depending on cases that arise. Elders called upon to care for this responsibility must exercise heavenly wisdom, have good judgment, and be impartial. (Deut. 1:13, 16-18) A sound knowledge of Jehovah's righteous laws and principles is necessary.(Ps. 19:7-11) They must weigh matters carefully, realizing that certain factors make situations differ from one another.
    Instead of looking for rigid rules for guidance, elders should think in terms of principles; judge each case on its own merits. Before handling a judicial case, elders should carefully review Units 5(a), 5(b), and 5(c). They may also need to do research in the Society's publications and recent correspondence from the Society to find information that may apply or be helpful. Elders can be confident that with accurate knowledge, with experience and discernment, and with the help of God's spirit, they can judge in righteousness, wisdom, and mercy.
    Handling Judicial Cases
    Do not send an individual any kind of correspondence that directly accuses him of specific wrongdoing. It is best for two elders to speak with the individual and invite him to meet with the Judicial committee. Suitable arrangements should be made as to the time and place of the hearing. State what the person's course of action is supposed to have been. If it is necessary to send a written invitation, you should simply state what the individual's course is alleged to have been, the time and place of the hearing, and how the person can contact the chairman if the arrangements are inconvenient for him. If the accused wishes to bring witnesses who can speak in his defense regarding the matter, he may do so. However, observers are not permitted. No tape-recording devices are allowed. If the accused repeatedly fails to come to the hearing, the committee will proceed with the hearing but will not make a decision until evidence and any testimony by witnesses are considered. The committee should not take action against a person unless the evidence clearly proves this necessary. Failure to appear before the committee is not in itself proof of guilt.
    What kind of evidence is acceptable?
    There must be two or three eyewitnesses, not just persons repeating what they have heard; no action can be taken if there is only one witness. (Deut. 19:15;Jol1ll 8:17) Confession (admission of wrongdoing), either written or oral, may be accepted as conclusive proof without other corroborating evidence. (Josh. 7:19) Strong circumstantial evidence, such as pregnancy or evidence (testified to by at least two witnesses) that the accused stayed all night in the same house with a person of the opposite sex (or in the same house with a known homosexual) under improper circumstances, is acceptable. The testimony of youths may be considered; it is up to the elders to determine if the testimony has the ring of truth. The testimony of unbelievers may also be considered, but it must be carefully weighed. If there are two or three witnesses to the same kind of wrongdoing but each one is witness to a separate incident, their testimony can be considered. Such evidence may be used to establish guilt, but it is preferable to have two witnesses to the same occurrence of wrongdoing.
    Judging With Righteousness, Wisdom, and Mercy
    Elders must exercise wisdom in their questioning and godly qualities in their judging. In giving counsel or rendering decisions, avoid expressing opinions; be sure to judge in righteousness. (Deut. 1:16,17) You must ask pertinent, discreet questions to isolate main issues and determine how or why a problem developed. Probing questions should not go into needless details, especially in regard to sexual misconduct, unless this is absolutely necessary, such as in determining whether porneia had been committed. Elders need to treat the accused kindly and respectfully, never harshly. (w89 9/15 p.19) Seek divine wisdom to help you relate Bible laws to the issues raised or the charges being considered. (Jas. 1:5; 3:17,18) You must exercise mercy in matters of judgment, not only by showing compassion in the judgment rendered but also by expressing kind consideration and pity in your efforts both to bring wrongdoers to repentance and to heal and restore those who are repentant. (Rom. 2:4; Jas. 5:14-16; Jude 22,23) In cases where it is established that a serious sin was actually committed, the judicial committee should consider such factors as these:Is there evidence of the person's craving wrongful things or courting trouble? Or did the person momentarily succumb to weakness? (Jas. 4:1) Was he aware of the gravity of his sin? (Gal. 6:1) Had he been admonished that his course was leading toward danger? (1 Thess. 5:14) What were the circumstances leading up to the wrongdoing? Are there extenuating factors, such as emotional or mental disorders or having been a victim of some type of abuse in the past, that should be considered? Was it a single offense, or was it committed more than once? Was his confession voluntary, or did he have to be accused by others before confessing? Was his reluctance to speak more a result of deep shame than of lack of repentance? Above all does he show true repentance and manifest a heartfelt desire to avoid repetition of the wrong? Even though the wrongdoer is guilty of a serious offense, elders on the judicial committee realize that their aim is to recover the one who has fallen into a wrong course, whenever this is possible. (Jude 23) If he listens to them, showing true repentance, it may be that he can be retained as a brother and thus be spared being disfellowshipped. (Prov. 19:20; compare Matthew 18:15-17.) Neither the gravity of the wrong nor bad publicity finally determines whether the person should be disfellowshipped; rather, the determining factor is the individual's sincere repentance or the lack of it. Some manifest repentance right after their sin by taking steps immediately to confess; others manifest repentance later, even during the meeting with the judicial committee. (w83 1/1 pp. 30-1) It is in the person's favor if he voluntarily confesses, but the determining factor is: Is he repentant? There is good reason for you to weigh carefully claims of repentance when the individual has shown himself to be guilty of hypocrisy, lying, or making deliberate efforts to deceive. Also be cautious when it is apparent that the wrong act was preceded by deliberate scheming, perhaps in a cold, calculating way
    . This is quite different from when an individual, under the unexpected pressure or certain tempting circumstances, gives in because of human weakness.

    Note how the same rules that have been effectively used to deny justice to the silent lambs by not exposing or disciplining their rapists, will be coldly twisted to deny justice to Mr "Silentlambs" Bowen by holding him responsible for "spoiling the name of Jehovah" (i.e. of the Watchtower), though the detail of what he will be charged with will be quite different and all to do with obedience, submission and belief. The rapist gets off, the whistleblower gets executed.

    They'll promise a fair trial - and they'll mean, and will deliver, a Fine Hanging. All politely!

    Note that within their Elder's "secret" Handbook, references to the Watchtower are interspersed with those from to Bible, each carrying equal weight.

    --
    Focus
    ("Justice in/from the Watchtower" - the world's shortest book! Class)

    Edited by - Focus on 18 July 2002 14:57:54

  • Xandria
    Xandria

    Bill,

    Like this is going to change you.. even if they do suceed in D/F you .. I serously doubt that all this will end there. I think silent lambs everywhere will continue the fight. Their Secret Tribunal Assasignations of Character will not stop the TRUTH of what they have done to people. By allowing these abuses within the WTS. They have failed in their appointed positions as "shepards" of the congregation. They have a certain accountablity.. and b/c you called them on it they are going to punish you ? That is beyond ridiculous!

    In one of my post I stated this.

    God is UNCONDITIONAL love.. and in a Organization that places conditions unto thier love then I question it. Because we do not answer to them they are not our judge. God is.. yet they step in countless times to pass judgement and condemnation of a brother or sister. An shun them or shame them into returning to an organization, that uses fear to keep people in line. How is that God's mercy ? God is the only one who can "forgive" us for our sin.. he is the one that shows us mercy. He understands that we are imperfect. We repent to him and ONLY him. Not to an organization of men.

    A brother can show consern, help you in your toughest hours and be a source of strengthing fellowship. But not judge, jury and executioner.

    You continue to stand against this .. and we will stand with you.

    Xandria

  • Dismembered
    Dismembered

    I'd bring a lawyer Bill, heck with their requirements

  • ISP
    ISP

    Might be handy to review the UN Charter..............

    Article 10.
    Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

    Article 18.
    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

    Article 19.
    Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

    I guess these don't apply in Dubland.......

    ISP

  • Focus
    Focus

    Do not assume that your readers will be familiar with the disgusting Cult except as being represented by some harmless-looking kooks who come knocking at their door uninvited and often at inconvenient times.

    Remember, the target audience is THE WORLD. Not the jWs! MOST OF THEM ARE BEYOND ECONOMIC REPAIR!

    You are warning them (the world) ABOUT THE DANGER AT THEIR DOOR from a Cult that seems to have been DESIGNED to encourage PEDOPHILIA, harbor PEDOPHILES and give them operating opportunities!

    SO, WHEN GIVING THIS MATTER OF HOW THIS CULT HAS REWARDED THE BRAVE MAN WHO PROTECTED THE LITTLE CHILDREN ALL POSSIBLE PUBLICITY, PLEASE:
    (a) USE THE TERM "EXCOMMUNICATION" RATHER THAN "DISFELLOWSHIPPING", WHICH IS NOT UNDERSTOOD OUTSIDE THE CULT; and
    (b) POINT OUT THE CONSEQUENCES TO A BELIEVING-jW LIKE BILL OF SUCH EXCOMMUNICATION: "THAT HE WILL SOON BE KILLED BY JEHOVAH AT ARMAGEDDON, WHICH IS IMMINENT", AND THE TORTURE THAT MUST CAUSE; and
    (c) POINT OUT THE CONSEQUENCES TO ANY EXCOMMUNICATED jW: "THAT HE WILL BE SHUNNED FOREVER BY ALL HIS FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES WHO ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"; and
    (d) POINT OUT THE TERRIBLE PERSONAL COST OF (c), GIVEN THAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE BEEN SO STRONGLY DISCOURAGED FROM HAVING FRIENDS OR CONTACTS OUTSIDE THE CULT AND HAVE PROBABLY SPENT MUCH OF THEIR TIME WITHIN THE CULT TRYING TO CONVERT THOSE CLOSE TO THEM, PERHAPS WITH SUCCESS - IT IS A TRIPLE-DEATH.

    Thanks!

    --
    Focus
    ("Bring Armageddon to the Wicked Watchtower!" Class)

    PS: No, the chairman is not the Pedo. While they are DUMB, they ain't that DUMB!

  • Siddhashunyata
    Siddhashunyata

    It would not be a stretch to consider this latest development as more evidence of libelous construction . A premptive law suit would bring the matter into the light of the civil court and out of the darkness of the Kingdom Hall.. Obviously they want Bill and Barbara out of the way before the September march.

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