ISP posted on Mar 3, 2001 9:54:11AM:
>[re the fullness of the quote] are you correct or incorrect?
What's your point? On Mar 3, 2001 at 7:58:49AM I had already written:
"If I didn't quote the article in entirety, it was wholly inadvertent - sorry." Is some part of that unclear to you?!
Whether the quote was in its entirety or not is a simple matter of fact (not open to debate), so asking me if I am correct or incorrect is a bit silly of you! You have provided a couple of lines from the QFR that were not in my quote (and were apparently on the next page) so I must conclude either: (a) You are a fraudster; or (b) You have been deceived; or (c) I was wrong.
> I don't accept your explanation about having material available to you BTW.
I happen to believe (c) as my source was a list of clippings provided to me by Prominent Bethelite, who extracts them en masse for me to collate and cut from. His clipping I assumed (absence of " .. ") was complete. I do not have access to the CD - my involvement with the WT was over a long time ago. PB won't make duplicates. Clear enough?
And your aggressive "I don't accept your explanation about having material available to you BTW" runs rather contrary to your assertion
5 hours earlier that "I thought you have overlooked/misrepresented a few things, whether intentionally or not I hardly care".
Why didn't you paste the whole thing, then? Is there something else there that you have spotted is further damaging to your case? . After all, the additional snip you provided supports my contention re deterrents against reporting, anyway!
>The injured party does not have to consider the expense and the time is not a factor either. It is simply not that persons decision.
LOL! Are you TRULY{/b] this naive? The decision is whether or not to report it, KNOWING WHAT THE CONSEQUENT COST IN TIME (and therefore expense) IS GOING TO BE. Do you know what court-attendance compensation fees run at? LOL!
> or do you think you can say to the police in a murder investigation...'I've been reading this WT article
> and I don't think I should get involved becasuse of the time and money involved'....duh?
Ummm, put your thinking cap back on.
WHAT YOU DO IS NOT REPORT IT. Or feign poor memory or whatever
Your confusion is hilarious.
[snip for brevity]
>to correct your statement which was.....
>>So - the summary is: "YES, YOU MUST NOT TAKE ACTION AGAINST A FELLOW JW - NO EXCEPTIONS".
> So are there exceptions or are there not?
NO, THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. The wording of the article that I have, read with the extra snip you provided, make that clear.
Tell me - do you really not understand the true import and menace of "There may even be times when Christian brothers conscientiously feel that they could go to court with fellow believers."?? LOL!
Note that in making an insurance claim, it is the insurance company that causes the action to come about (though it may be nominally your action) once you have notified them (often, a contractual duty of your's). We are talking substance here, not form.
As to the probating of wills that you quoted - that is not taking another JW to court!! Please, engage brain first.
> So whats ya problem, if you want to sue your brother because he owes you money, theres nothing stopping you in actual fact.
What was the biblical sanction against a Christian for eating blood?
> I agree this is a serious subject but I don't think the WTS QFR has much bearing on this matter.
You would be right if the WTBTS operated in the competent, aboveboard and honest manner that Friend's arguments predicate. [b]But it does not. JT has explained perfectly how the QFR would be applied - address yourself to that if you really wish to get yourself mired in deeper.
>ISP
By the way, your's is the most cogent defense here. Well done! Got a CD burner? I can arrange for a drop box in the US or in whatever country you are in. It'd really help my kingdom-preaching, disciple-making work (see lists in my sig).
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