U.S. Army admits to widespread cultural pedophilia in Afghanistan

by RottenRiley 32 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  Bungi Bill

  nobody has ever been able to control Afghanistan for any period of time.

  Very true, and this was the case well before the advent of Islam, too:

  - like so many since, the Graeco-Macedonian armies of Alexander the Great (circa 332 BC) conquered the place, but never held it for very long.

  In his arrogance, George W. Bush probably figured he was somehow different. (Or perhaps in his ignorance, he had no knowledge of Afghanistan's long track record of chewing up invaders, and then spitting them out?)

  Bill
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  BU2B

  The troops are really there to grow the opium.
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  Band on the Run

  Disgusting.
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  metatron

  This long neglected fact should wake up some folks as to the fact of domination/control of the mainstream media in the US by corporations and the military.

  British troops have expressed horror about this sometime ago and there has plenty of evidence about "bacha" out there. It has been kept out of the headlines.

  metatron
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  fulltimestudent

  Posted:

  like so many since, the Graeco-Macedonian armies of Alexander the Great (circa 332 BC) conquered the place, but never held it for very long.

  We should not make the mistake of looking at a contemporary geo-political unit and thinking that it always existed in that form. And also it should be remembered, borders were vague ideas, particularly in areas with sparsse populations. Afghanistan, as we know it, and the other 'stans, to its north, were peripheral to many other political centres, such as the Iranian (Persian) Empire which was conquered by Alexander the Great and thus came under the control of the Seleucid Empire. On the eastern side, various Indian empires some times pushed westward.

  Its location meant that land based trade between west and south Asia

  Culturally, the area of modern Afghanistan was influenced by a number of adjacent cultural centres. Indo-Iranian culture tracked back and forth through that territory. Buddhism also tracked through it, on its way northward into Sogdia and then east to China, Korea, Japan and at a later point to sections of Mongolia. The Greek colonies founded by Alexander and his successors brought Greek religion and thought to the area and that became an important influence on Buddhism. Nomadic tribes from the north of contemporary China once moved into sections of modern Afghanistan and controlled areas for centuries.

  I'm not sure what is meant by the expression, 'not very long,' but some of the political units established persisted for 2-300 years, albeit territoritoral control may shrink and expand.
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  Bungi Bill

  And also it should be remembered, borders were vague ideas,

  And in the case of Afghanistan, these still are vague ideas, as is the very idea of a such a "geo-political unit" as Afghanistan.

  Its central government never has excercised much control over the regions, certainly no more than each local ruler allowed it to have:

  - a situation making the place all but ungovernable.

  Also, when you have such major population groups as the Pashtuns resident on both sides of an imaginary line designated "border" - a line that is crossed by few roads, but many thousands of unpoliced mule tracks - the term "border" comes to mean very little!

  Bill.
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  fulltimestudent

  From my previous post:

  Its location meant that land based trade between west and south Asia

  Not sure how part of this post disappeared (Clumsy fingers, the likely explanation), but I meant it to say:

  Its location meant that land based trade between west and south Asia had to pass through these areas that are now Afghanistan. Local areas and the controlling empires could tax trade goods on the way west.

  To bypass that possibility, shipping routes developed into Arabia (hence the importance of trade in early Islam).

  Which was all meant to demonstrate the influences that operated on the culture of the area.
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  fulltimestudent

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  The Soviets had no business getting involved with the Afghanistan War even though Afghanistan would have been better off under the yokes of the Soviets. The blood bath ensuing the Soviet Withdrawl, Afghanistan went in to total chaos killing off a large portion of their men over sixteen years old, nobody has ever been able to control Afghanistan for any period of time.

  It is not difficult to background the Soviet involvement. In the 19th C, when 'western' powers developed their Imperialistic ideologies, there was a race by European powers to establish empires. You can read about the English, French, Dutch, Belgian, German, Italian and Russian empires if you want to.

  And, the 'land of the free' wanted in on the action also. That's why, in addition to the chunks chopped off (or bought) from other Imperial powers, you can now find US (or, previous) US territories, stretching across the Pacific.

  The English, finding it difficult to hold onto a restless India ( think the bloody Indian mutiny from 1857) became concerned when Russia started extending its influence into central Asia, and tried to take control of Afghanistan (more or less independent) and in 1904, again from fear of increasing Russian influence, invaded Tibet in an attempt to wrest it from the Chinese. The diplomatic discussions, following that failed attempt, went on for nearly two decades.

  I mention all that to show that Russian influence was present in central Asia from mid 19th C. After the Russian Revolution and the end of Imperial Russia and the establishment of Soviet Russia, a number of dependent Soviet states were established in Central Asia, but Afghanistan remained independent (nominally at least).

  The factor that brought Russian entry into Afghanistan was the Cold war, and a popular vote in Afghanistan which brought a socialist government to power (but, remember that many nations in the world had socialist governments - Australia included and India). Both Russia and the USA sought to checkmate the other and both started to find ways to undermine the other and expand their own influence. Afghanistan was unlucky enough to be important for the west to hold India and Pakistan. When a Afghani government collpased the Russians felt no option but to control the country.

  In response, the USA began to arm and train fanatical Muslims to fight the Russians - and you have the start of current problems.

  Wisdom is demonstrated by its results.
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  FlyingHighNow

  I knew someone that served over there and he mentioned this. He said that the men would not have much sex with their wives for fear of having more children than they could afford to raise. Instead homesexuality is the comon out let for sexual desire. He did not mention pedophilia.

  This can't be the reason for the homosexuality. Women can do the same things for a man that other men can do: think about it. Maybe it's more of the Madonna/Whore issue?
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  apostatethunder

  Cold war? This picture looks very warm. The whole cold war thing seemed more like a long-term project between America and the Soviet Union where the end result was already pre-decided. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Bn3ipr3A8