The idea of there being no God is ludicrous and magical type thinking to me. I know there is a god like I know that I am a girl. I have never doubted God exists, though at times he felt more distant. Jehovah did not feel real though. He just became like a great big, abusive, bully parent to me. I knew real love is not abusive. With a god like Jehovah, who needed a Satan?
Are religionists and atheists on the same team?
by Fernando 191 Replies latest watchtower bible
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NewChapter
magical type thinking
This interesting. I can accept that you never doubt that there is a god, but in what way is it magical thinking to disbelieve it? I usually hear that phrase the other way around.
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N.drew
the world is much larger than that chart----the majority of the world believes in a god or gods.
I found another survey that says a slight majority believe (51%).
Do you know where to find information that proves what you say?
http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/04/global-poll-reveals-that-slim-majority-believe-in-god/
Many people who believe in God I assume have not had their faith tested as many here have had their faith tested. If all of the people in the world believing in God where to be tested, do you think they would come out of the test still believing?
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NewChapter
I'm watching a movie that I'm streaming in from netflix right now. Very interesting. Because the Bible Told Me SO for those that are interested.
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FlyingHighNow
For me it is magical thinking to believe that everything we see today sprang from nothing/space or as some argue: inanimate matter. And before you go saying things that start with, "But science!" Understand enough scientists do believe there is intelligence and purpose behind the material world. And that doesn't mean they are all Christians either.
Google results when searching for scientists who believe in god: This is a place to start. There are essays, books, lectures, etc. on the subject.
Famous Scientists Who Believed in God
www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html Cached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Dec 8, 2011 – Most famous scientists of the past have had faith in God. These include Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo,, Newton, Mendel, and many others.Collins: Why this scientist believes in God - CNN
articles.cnn.com/...04.../collins.commentary_1_god-dna-revelation?_... Cached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 3, 2007 – I am a scientist and a believer, and I find no conflict between those world views.As the director of the Human Genome Project, I have led a ...Scientists Speak Up on Mix of God and Science - New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2005/08/23/national/23believers.html?...all You +1'd this publicly. Undo Aug 23, 2005 – Most scientists he knows who do believe in God, he added, believe in "a God who is behind the laws of nature but who is not intervening." ...Do Scientists Believe In God | What do scientists think about religion ...
articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/24/opinion/la-oe-masci24-2009nov24 Cached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Nov 24, 2009 – Today, a century and a half after Charles Darwin published "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection," the overwhelming ...Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline | LiveScience
www.livescience.com/379-scientists-belief-god-varies-starkly-discipli... Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Aug 11, 2005 – About two-thirds of scientists believe in God, according to a new survey that uncovered stark differences based on the type of research they do.Scientists Who Believe in God
www.biblequery.org/Science/Scientists.htm Cached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo May 19, 2009 – Seven Scientists Who Believe in God. “All human discoveries seem to be made only for the purpose of confirming more and more strongly the ...Evolution and Religion Can Coexist, Scientists Say
news.nationalgeographic.com/.../1018_041018_science_religion.htm... Cached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Oct 18, 2004 – Yet scientists may be just as likely to believe in God as other people, according to surveys. Some of history's greatest scientific minds, including ...Survey: 1 in 3 Scientists Believe in God
www.christianpost.com/.../survey-one-third-of-scientists-believe-in-g... Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jul 16, 2009 – About one out of every three scientists in the United States professed believing in God, a recent survey found. That figure is strikingly lower than ...50 NOBEL LAUREATES WHO BELIEVE IN GOD
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still thinking
So flyingHigh...I take it you haven't considered that to be a possibility?
I hadn't either until fairly recently. If you won't or don't want to consider it, does that make belief more true?
Maybe religionists and believers really are the ones on the same team...bummer...I wanted to wear the uniform...
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still thinking
I've read a few of those books FH...how many have you read that disagree with what you believe. How many have you read that claim there is no god?
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NewChapter
It's a faulty question---are we on the same team. The implication is that atheists lead people away from god. That is impossible. Therefore the question is invalid.
How many people have you led away from god?
When did you quit beating your wife.
One presumes there is a god. And one presumes you used to beat your wife.
If a religionist pulls a person away from worshipping some god, it is likely an emotional decision---hurt feelings, anger, whatever. As I've said, it is impossible to lie about any god. These feelings MAY lead one to think critically and question the existence of a god, but that initial reaction is emotional.
Atheists don't invoke the emotions. They appeal to reason, and if the person concludes there is no god, then they are not leaving any god.
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Fernando
Hey Tammy and others!
I have to agree the word "militant" makes a difference.
Psychiatrist Morgan Scott Peck defined evil (observed in his patients) as "militant ignorance" and characterised it as "malignant self-righteousness".
It would seem then that the "lost" (or not yet saved) in scripture are rather different from the "wicked" or "evil" (or the seemingly never will be saved).
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NewChapter
Some scientists believe in God---the majority don't. But it does not matter. I don't believe or not believe in a god because of a scientist's beliefs, but because of the evidence they can and cannot offer. I make my decison based on that, not the scientist's worldview.
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