Why Some Suffer Spiritual Shipwreck

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  • mankkeli
    mankkeli

    This was taken from the 1999 WT, 7/15.

    When Paul warned of experiencing “shipwreck,” he had in mind some who had “thrust aside” their good conscience and had lost their faith. (1 Timothy 1:19) Among them were Hymenaeus and Alexander who fell into apostasy, deviating from the truth and speaking abusively. (1 Timothy 1:20, footnote; 2 Timothy 2:17, 18) Today, apostates, who deviate from the truth, verbally beat “the faithful and discreet slave,” in effect biting the hand that had been feeding them spiritually. Some resemble the “evil slave,” implicitly saying, “My master is delaying.” (Matthew 24:44-49; 2 Timothy 4:14, 15) They deny that the end of this wicked system of things is near and criticize the spiritually alert slave class for maintaining a sense of urgency among Jehovah’s people. (Isaiah 1:3) Such apostates succeed in “subverting the faith of some,” inducing spiritual shipwreck.—2 Timothy 2:18.

    Other dedicated Christians have wrecked the ship of their faith by thrusting aside their conscience and indulging in this world’s unbridled pleasure-seeking and its sexual immorality. (2 Peter 2:20-22) Still others scuttle their ship of faith because in their view the haven of the new system of things does not yet seem to be appearing on the horizon. Unable to make time calculations concerning the fulfillment of certain prophecies, and putting “Jehovah’s day” off in their minds, they abandon true worship. (2 Peter 3:10-13; 1 Peter 1:9) They soon find themselves back in the murky, troubled waters of the present system of things. (Isaiah 17:12, 13; 57:20) Some who have stopped associating with the Christian congregation still believe that it practices the true religion. However, they evidently lack the patience and endurance required to wait for the new world that Jehovah God has promised. Life in Paradise has not come soon enough for them.

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  • designs
    designs

    Any good Science book should do the Trick

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    What does Steven Hawking think on this subject?

  • sd-7
    sd-7
    Among them were Hymenaeus and Alexander

    These men were teaching that the resurrection had already occurred. Doesn't the Society teach that the resurrection has already begun?

    The names that the "slave" class uses to speak about "apostates"--thieves, wolves, 'mentally diseased'--these aren't abusive terms? They are terms used in scripture, but not necessarily in the same way as the Bible verses that mention them.

    Also, the notion that anyone critical of the 'slave' is biting the hand that fed them seems to imply that all spiritual food resides with the Watchtower Society. The Bible does not mention that any group of men is the source of spiritual food, but rather, "every utterance from Jehovah's mouth" is. (Matt. 4:4) The Bible is the Word of God, not any other set of publications. Either way, this seems a prideful position, as "what do you have that you did not receive? If you did receive it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it?" (1 Cor. 4:7)

    Unable to make time calculations concerning the fulfillment of certain prophecies,

    So, who put time calculations in the core of their message to begin with? Jesus certainly did not. He specifically told his followers that it did not belong to them to get knowledge of the times and seasons the Father put in his own jurisdiction. (Acts 1:7) So who did? In the first century, there were individuals pretending to be apostles who wrote letters as if "the day of Jehovah" was here. Paul set them straight. (2 Thess. 2:1-3) Who today has repeatedly told their followers "the day of Jehovah is here", yet it failed to come to pass? The "evil slave" believes his master is delaying apparently because he expected his master to arrive at a specific time. He seems overly interested in time prophecies. Who has repeatedly presented false information about time prophecies for the last 130 years?

    Seems to me that the spiritual shipwreck they refer to is their own.

    --sd-7

  • Found Sheep
    Found Sheep

    That isn't at all why I left the cult!!! I woke up and realized it was just a sinking ship

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  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Same old WatchTarded Crap..Make up supposed Facts..

    Knock them Down..

    Have an Idiot deliver the WBT$ Message..

    At least Mankkeli is the right person for the job..

    ......................... ...OUTLAW

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    Name-calling is an important tool of propagandists; it slaps an easy-to-remember label upon one's opponents. How wise we are to avoid apostate propaganda!

    --sd-7

  • mankkeli
    mankkeli

    sd-7 - You have solidly refuted the WT's claims, nevertheless, I will be responding in their own words. the paragraph continues;

    9 A few dedicated Christians in some parts of the world appear to have reefed the sails of their ship of faith. The ship is still afloat, but instead of forging ahead in full faith, they have adopted a cruising speed. Drawn by the hope of “Paradise soon,” some were prepared to spare no efforts to attain it—zealous in the preaching work and regular in attendance at all meetings, assemblies, and conventions. Now thinking that the realization of their hopes is farther off than they anticipated, they have lowered the price they are willing to pay. This is evident in reduced preaching activity, irregularity at meetings, and willingness to miss parts of assembly or convention programs. Others are devoting more time to recreation and to obtaining material comforts. These facts lead us to consider what should be the driving force in our lives in line with our dedication to Jehovah. Should our zeal in his service be dependent on the hope of “Paradise soon”?

    did you sink because God delayed in establishing paradise on earth?

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