A question for Christians, bible thumpers, and heathens.

by gumby 65 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • gumby
    gumby
    Are we punished for our parents' sins? Yes or no?

    • Exodus 20:5 "For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation." (Repeated in Deuteronomy 5:9)
    • Exodus 34:6-7 " . . . The Lord God, merciful and gracious, . . . that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."
    • I Corinthians 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, . . ."

      vs.

    • Ezekiel 18:20 "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father."
    • Deuteronomy 24:16 "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."

    Which one is correct?

    Gumheathen

  • Valis
    Valis

    Gumbiblebastard..

  • gumby
    gumby

    Valgina.

    Gumby

  • heathen
    heathen

    Well us heathens believe we die because of inherant imperfection . The genetic pool was contaminated and our days are numbered to 120 yrs. maximum.

  • bebu
    bebu

    God does not judge each soul for eternity based upon the actions of his parents.

    Sometimes God allows the children or evil people to suffer, as a kind of object lesson--that sin is a serious thing with implications for the community. But suffering caused by relationship to a parent is not an eternal sort; just temporal. One's eternal destiny is for each soul's heart to choose.

    bebu

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    This simply shows one of many contradictions in the bible... one of the many reasons I don't assign it much value.

  • gumby
    gumby
    God does not judge each soul for eternity based upon the actions of his parents.

    Bebu,

  • Exodus 20:5 "For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation." (Repeated in Deuteronomy 5:9)
  • Exodus 34:6-7 " . . . The Lord God, merciful and gracious, . . . that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."
  • I Corinthians 15:22 "For as in Adam all die, . . ."

    • Then please answer this.....it's from the bible.

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    I am past the point where I think that every little thing in the Bible is guaranteed to come from the mouth of God.

    I don't think that God takes vengeance on children; I do think that putting those words into God's mouth served someone's political purpose though.

  • gumby
    gumby
    I do think that putting those words into God's mouth served someone's political purpose though.

    I think in the long run.....your right! Political or religious......it's close to the same.

    Gumby

  • El blanko
    El blanko

    Well yes, to the nation of Israel it is understandable that God would have taken that stance. They were an elite tribe amongst tribes and carried the "Ark Of The Covenant". If you believe the Bible account, then those people at that time were a priviledged host nation and bore great responsibility.

    There would have been little doubt amongst them (man & child) that the spirit of Yahweh was amongst them, again if you believe the Bible account.

    Therefore the quoted texts were primarily directed at Israel.

    God forged a line through history that was fulfilled in Christ through that nation and jealously guarded that line through direction and indeed, punishment.

    etc ..

    Also, if a father does not guide his child in a right way, then punishment does continue down the hereditary line of that father to the child and often to the child's offspring as well. Traits of character can become ingrained and therefore, that within itself can be a punishment towards future generations. Ignorance breeds ignorance.

    Apply those texts primarily to ancient Israel.

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