If you want to show a JW some of the older publications from a non-apostate and 'safe' website..

by The Quiet One 63 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • caliber
    caliber

    Some ask ..."..why do you need to read old magazines and books anyway.. don't you believe that

    the light gets brighter and brighter ?"

    1) because if the Wt was chosen in 1919 on the bases what was taught that year, it is still important today

    to verify to new ones and sincere doubters why it was so.

    2) If the baptism vows have change since our baptism , this is very important to know and why

    3) if the view toward blood and blood fractions have changed not knowing what you are to believe could lead to a life and death decision

    4) if we are told that the society never said 1975 or 1925 were the end of this old world .. isn't it our right to search and

    see how we arrived at this "false idea" all by ourselves ?

  • The Quiet One
    The Quiet One

    *sorry, just in case he misses the question*
    Fair point, EMETH. Would you acknowledge, though.. that this 'old stuff' came from Jehovah himself, according to Russell (see quote above). If Jehovah guided him to write these things, they are surely not outdated and irrelevant? Or did Russell falsely claim to be taught by God, and that his books came from God?..

  • emeth
    emeth

    Russell never claimed to be a inspired prophet or without any failures or mistakes. He was just a human as much as i and you are. He is just a person who started a process of digging and searching for bible truths. He himself dug up some nice things , like the teaching of the mortality of the soul,.. the firehose on Hell to name a few. Furthermore he saw the need to spread the word all over the world and made a start. But having that said,.. he still had a lot of things to learn, to discover and to lighten up.

    His writings ( i have the old studies of the scripture volumes in print myself) are pretty much outdated and irrelavant. Collectors items and sometimes even funny to read. But we owe him thanks for starting up a process. That process is still ongoing.

  • The Quiet One
    The Quiet One

    He never claimed to be inspired?? Sorry to repeat these quotes, but you may want to look at these again..
    "In all his warnings he claimed no originality. He said that he could never have written his books himself. It all came from God, through the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit." ... "The Prophet was to find something. As Ezekiel ate the book in the hand of God, so the "faithful and wise servant" of this day absorbed, assimilated, the Plan of the Ages which was in the power (hand) of the Almighty..."

  • emeth
    emeth

    I am familiar with all kind of quotes... i have all volumes of the watchtower from 1879 till now even the Herald of the morning,.. all the old books, brochures, newspaper articles and debates , i have those. And i have seen people before firing lots of quotes and citations at eachother and its not a game i will play.

    Simply because Russell is not important to me or to the JW's. He was the one who started the process and we thank him for that. Its great to know that there is no trinity,.. no immortality of the soul and no Hell etc etc.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    " Its great to know that there is no trinity,...no immortality of the soul and no Hell etc etc."____emeth

    Don't get to comfortable.

    What's known as the " Truth " today, might change tomorrow

    Because the " Truth " in this religion has a foundation made of sand that always need " adjustments " .

    .

  • The Quiet One
    The Quiet One
  • cofty
    cofty

    Its great to know that there is no trinity,.. no immortality of the soul and no Hell etc etc.

    Why are statements about JW doctrines always made in the negative? We don't believe in ........

    What do you believe that you are confident will never change in the future?

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    " And i have seen people before firing lots of qoutes and citations at each other and it's not a game i will play "___emeth

    " Jehovah's witnesses are willing humbly to make such adjustments "_____Reasoning book page 205

    If the Governing Body didn't adjust to the sand that shifts, the WTS would tumble down

    .

  • The Quiet One
    The Quiet One

    Cofty that would be an excellent point on the thread I mentioned.. Can we please add to that to keep it all in one place? Thanks.

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