by TooBad TooSad 304 Replies latest members adult
speaker said that oral and anal sex is fornication
what does fornication have to do with married couples?
this is from that WT last year that talked about conscious matters and grey areas and dropped in 2 paragraphs about oral sex still being "pornea" for all the teeny-boppers blowing each other in their cars after school.
What a great post, Vinny, good job.
Awesome post Vinny!
We had a brother meet with my 1st wife and I regarding dating and clean sexual practices in marraige. Anyone else have that?
And the point made about oral sex not mentioned in the bible? Neither is masterbation. Again, another (dare I say) hardline rule
I have a great idea! Reniaa, go to your local body of "Shepherds, elders, Princes" whatever they call themselves And say," Thank you so much fo rhte new light, now I can give my hubby a beej whenever I want, and I love it when he reciprocates! We do it every night! Thank you for showing us your christian love!" And see what happens....
people you keep jumping to different subjects here.
vinny that was a nice post from solomon but I still stand by the point that with both OS and AS a woman may quite rightly want to refuse because they both can go beyond what she would want to do and be comfortable with and in fact a man may feel the same.
I originally disagreed with the original talker that a wt study he heard recently(as in last week) about os and as condemned it in married couples. I still think they wouldn't make that point anymore and aside no one has provided proof yet that it was mentioned in the actual talk that the original poster mentioned other than between unmarried couples as part of fornication acts. Like I said the inference is that these are considered wrong from being done while unmarried which is biblically correct the bible does not advocate sex between unmarried couples at all it is quite clear on that.
2 But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.
what the 78 and 83 wts make as points is it is a keep between husband and wife personal choice and agreement between them and the elders should not get involved unless approached about it. I'm pretty sure this is what an elder would say if asked 'it's between you two' these days as that is the point the 78 and 83 wt make on how it is viewed. I accept that until the thought changes the 83 viewpoint that they are 'perverted' but not 'pornea' stands but considering the context that it is between husband and wife to decide Personal choice is again the standing point.
As to the headship principle this again is biblical....
1 Corinthians 11:3
Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.
if you don't agree with headship principle your disgreement is with God not the witnesses.
I think all points are covered for me the only new information is if the recent wt study that started this whole thread actually covered these publically between married couples not just unmarried is available.
In other words you're calling the original poster a liar Reniaa? I'd believe him before I'd believe anything out of your mouth. Anywhoo, I don't know why you keep beating this dead horse when it's already been proven that you really don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Well It depends on whether there was a wt study last week that even covered this subject I'm not sure so thats why I wanted verification on both counts firstly that it was covered and secondly that the speaker made the point deliberately mentioning married couples not just unmarried. which you should know on here since you do your alternate wt study talks for ex-Jws.
Yep, you're calling him a liar. Keep digging that pit Reniaa.
what pit? he was either correct or not, he could have been mistaken or blinded by JW hate and made big assumptions beyond what is written which I see a lot on here, you yourself on this thread talk about headship principle do you realise headship is a bible principle inspired from God?
I know they talk about sex in front of young children, because I was at a devival last month and heard it, saw it, and recorded it.
Here's the thing. Engaging in conduct like that sexualizes children at an early age. This grooms them and is a technique used by pedophiles to prepare their victims. Since the GB directs what is taught then they are directly responsible for the rampant child molesting that goes on in the organization. It is shameful, except those men appear incapable of feeling shame.
