Posts by 4thgen

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10 years on.....

by snare&racket in

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i was a window cleaner, i was at the time unemployed, homeless.

i had no education to be proud of (high school one a two b's rest c's) i was a jehovahs witness.

i had been a pioneer.

4thgen

Thanks for the post. It's a keeper! Best wishes as your life continues to unfold.

Hugs, 4thgen

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hello, i've been lurking for quite some time here on this forum, reading a whole lot and i've finally made the courage to create an account as a form of escape and in hopes to be understood and not feel "mentally diseased".

little background on me, i am a born in but i consider myself a pimo (physically in mentally out).

i feel like i've always had doubts but these doubts would sink with the meetings and the assemblies and every other little thing that drowns any doubts a witness may have.

4thgen

Hello Jules, Welcome to sanity! It's amazing what information is out there. It can be hard to swallow all these new 'truths', but take your time. As you continue digging more things will come to light and even further strengthen your resolve to stay out. Welcome to the Forum!

Hugs, 4thgen

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New Kingdom Halls in Strip Malls & Real Estate Listings

by 4thgen in

i met with a jw today and they showed me a picture of the new style kh build.

the building was located in a ***strip mall**** in florida.

i'm always amazed (and disgusted) at the new and inventive ways they think of expanding their real estate holdings.. along that vein...i recently discovered this: .

4thgen

I'm not sure where the photo was taken. However, it appeared to be at the end of a row of commercial buildings all connected in a row (thus strip mall*). Actually, it is pretty smart from a business perspective. The old style stand alone halls are apparently hard to sell.After all, isn't it really the WT a business? Credit cards accepted.

Maybe this link will work better:

http://www.loopnet.com/locations/jehovahs-witnesses/listings/

*not stripper mall.

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New Kingdom Halls in Strip Malls & Real Estate Listings

by 4thgen in

i met with a jw today and they showed me a picture of the new style kh build.

the building was located in a ***strip mall**** in florida.

i'm always amazed (and disgusted) at the new and inventive ways they think of expanding their real estate holdings.. along that vein...i recently discovered this: .

4thgen

Greetings! I met with a JW today and they showed me a picture of the new style KH build. The building was located in a ***strip mall**** in Florida. Has anyone else seen it? I'm always amazed (and disgusted) at the new and inventive ways they think of expanding their real estate holdings.

Along that vein...I recently discovered this:

http://www.loopnet.com/locations/jehovahs-witnesses/properties/

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The GB members of the Watchtower Corporation are cunning decisive crooks

by Finkelstein in

i think its now easy see the long standing and continuous operation of the watchtower corporation and its commercialized corruption as a religious publishing house.

the core centralized intent was to increase the circulation and distribution of the wts's own publications.

they exploited the basic belief in the bible as holy spiritual writings and used the end is near proclamation all throughout the 20th century and even back toward the end of the 19th century.. these leaders also devised special engaging public talks at assemblies and local kingdom halls which were also devised to support those specific core doctrines of christ's return and a imposing question of who's worthy of being saved or not at the soon to come day of judgment armageddon.

4thgen

Absolutely. It is an abomination in the clearest sense of the word. "Blindsided" is accurate to use in this instance. Trusting individuals are used as dupes to have people donate to a publishing house, in the hopes that they are pleasing God. What a travesty!

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Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study

by doubtfull1799 in

“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.

it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.

jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.

4thgen

Don't let others make decisions for us? HUH? JW's always let the GB make decisions for them....

8. What important lesson about decision-making do we learn from Israel’s history?

8 The above-mentioned examples convey to us a clear lesson. It is up to each of us to make decisions, and the wise, right choices are based on sound Scriptural knowledge. Galatians 6:5 reminds us: “Each one will carry his own load of responsibility.” (Ftn.) We should not give someone else the responsibility to make decisions for us. Rather, we should personally learn what is right in God’s eyes and choose to do it.

9. Why can it be dangerous to let others decide for us?

9 How might we give in to the danger of letting others choose for us? Peer pressure could sway us to make a bad decision. (Prov. 1:10, 15) Still, no matter how others try to pressure us, it is our responsibility to follow our Bible-trained conscience. In many respects, if we let others make our decisions, we are essentially deciding to “follow them.” It is still a choice, but a potentially disastrous one.

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Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study

by doubtfull1799 in

“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.

it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.

jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.

4thgen

Interesting. What does the rest of the article indicate?

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Link to the English version of the Quebec (French) documentary, "The Kingdom's Dirty Secrets" (About JW's hiding child abuse)

by AndersonsInfo in

here's a link to the english version of the quebec documentary, the kingdom's dirty secrets that aired in canada at the beginning of december.

i was told that it's okay to share the documentary and post on social media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ajphgmt9jibarbara

4thgen

Barbara, Excellent! Thank you for posting. Also, as always...thank you for all your hard work...Hugs, 4thgen

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I feel really, really sorry for those born into the Jehovah's Witness religion

by jambon1 in

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friends

some facts that make the difference between you and me:.

1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.

how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.

4thgen

My parents were duped into believing that the end of the world was near. They believed that the religion they chose would save my life and the lives of those who would listen. In the context of saving a life, what is a missed birthday party or a Christmas gift?

Yes, to be raised as a JW is restrictive and abusive. I am not raising my child as I was….but then again I know better.

I’ve forgiven my parents and although I missed out on things, I understand their reasoning. I don't hold my parents or those that were tricked to the same standard as those who knowingly promoted a falsehood. As Jehovah's Witnesses we stood for what we believed and were valiant (and ignorant) in that regard.

The people who should beheld accountable are those in power in the organization (past and present); who are aware of the falsehood and who wickedly manipulate the meek to promote their self interests, greed and lust.

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Why Did JWs Abandon Brooklyn for the Sticks?

by Room 215 in

i may have missed this, but can anyone tell me what was the pretext the gb concocted to justify their abandonment of a perfectly suitable, high-profile, high-visibility complex in what is arguably the world's greatest metropolis for the bucolic isolation of upstate new york.

any how does the move square with their purported belief in the imminence of armageddon?

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4thgen

Maybe it's as close to paradise as they can find at a bargain price and still be able to pocket the extra cash.