DwainBowman

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  Can disassociated ones get reinstated without proving repentance?

  by maksutov in

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  2. beliefs

  one of the jw high-ups questioned by the australian royal commission (i think it was o'brien) stated that those who had disassociated (as opposed to being disfellowshipped) do not have to undergo a lengthy reinstatement procedure of proving repentance over many months, but can simply ask to be reinstated immediately.

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of this ever happening?.

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  DwainBowman

  In my years, I have ssen many da themselves. And a few return. Most of the returning da's, took longer to be reinstated, and even longer on getting any privileges back! It all depends on the WHY! If someone joined say the army, it may take a long time, and may never get to be much more than a seat filler. Then, there's the so called apostates, it all depends, if they were active in trying to turn others, or getting in the news etc, about what they believed. If one kept their ideals to themselves, then confessed later that they were misled. And it also depends on the body of goof balls "elders" you deal with!

  Dwain
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  Dragging Jehovah's name trough the mud!

  by truthseekeriam in

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  2. friends

  listening to the first survivor testify to the australian royal commission really brought back some feelings i had put aside.. the feelings of guilt you feel for doing the right thing is extremely hard even when you know it's illogical it doesn't stop the abuse you do to yourself with these toxic thoughts of "dragging jehovah's name through the mud" i guess it doesn't help that you have the elders freaking out saying "reproach, reproach...this is bad!!

  it took quite awhile for me to come to terms with how completely ridicules it is to think jehovah would want this hidden.

  the truth is the religion wants it hidden and they are perfectly fine with destroying lives along the way!!

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  DwainBowman

  Two young "brothers" robbed a small store, some years ago. As the police were cuffing them a "sister" drives up, and after hearing what was going on, she starts yelling, "They didn't do it, they are JW's" She carried on for 10 minutes or more! So it of course made front page headlines! And the "elders & co" were so mad! We had a special meeting, going over what not to do, in cases like that!
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  Has the WT ever said it's okay to steak rare?

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm revisiting an old topic here, but this was a subject of much confusion for me when i was still a witness.

  i went to a spanish congregation in the u.s. and it seemed to be taken for granted by most that you needed to cook beef thoroughly to "get rid" of the blood.

  i was surprised when i learned that folks in the english speaking hall would order a steak medium-rare and think nothing of it.. it wasn't until after i left the witnesses that it started to occur to me that if the red fluid that was present when you'd cut the beef was blood, cooking it thoroughly wouldn't get rid of it, it'd just cook it and transform it into another color.

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  DwainBowman

  Thanks Blondie! I knew when I read the question, something was in print from the early 70's, but you kept me from digging!
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  Need Help! JW Grandmother (may be) Going to Court for Visitation

  by Expanded-Mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am hoping someone may be able to give me some guidance on behalf of my son.

  my ex-wife, who remains a jw, is threatening to go to court to get visitation with our 5 year old grandchild.

  she had regular visits with our grandchild, but when my son (no longer a jw) and his wife (never a jw) found out that his mother was teaching their daughter the jw religion without their permission and even telling our grandchild not to tell their parents... well to say the least, that was a game-changer.

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  DwainBowman

  The state I live in had passed grandparents rights laws, snd they lasted untill someone fought it to the state supreme court. The law was thrown out! Few states allow such rights!

  Dwain
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  Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel

  by _Morpheus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.

  rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.

  q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?

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  DwainBowman

  Hey guys, Did any of you know Duane Wilkie, he was in Brooklyn. How about Ron / Ronald Chambers. I used to know a couple of 100 in all. But so many have been sent away. One long time friend of mine, was interviewed on a ca part. He was all excited about how loving and wonderfully everything was at bethell during his 30+ years. And that it was just great to have been sent away as a special pioneer. I called him a couple of weeks ago. He said everything he said was BS, but if he didn't say it like he meant it, he would lose what little he had left!

  I was invited to bethell, when I was 18, but was having health problems, and was not able to go. For years I regretted not getting to go. But have learned so much for so many, about the slavery that is called life, I thank god for not going!

  Dwain
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  If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. friends

  i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

  i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

  i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

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  I would love to live forever right here on earth! There is so much to see, and learn!

  But I would never want to live there in the shape I am in! I truly enjoy very little in life anymore! I am just too beat up, in most every way! I am not sure how much longer I will be able to walk! I for one HATE being a burden on anyone, even in small things!

  I would be fine finding out my life was going to end today! I am sl very tired of the struggle! I want it to end!

  Dwain
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  Is the Org Putting Elders in the Firing Line?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in view of the conti verdict of negligence by the org, are elders who are selected by the c.o.

  now in a precarious position?

  "charity trustees face potential liabilities in a number of ways.

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  The co still has to run it by the borg first! A cong wanting to appoint someone, has to send the names 30 days before the co visit. He then send the list to the borg for there ok! But he dose make the final ok!
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  Candace settled and she deserves the peace.

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?".

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  DwainBowman

  My elder brother in law, has hinted that there are some changes coming down the borg drain, dealing with the Sick-O's!

  So I would guess all these lawsuits are changing things. We'll see whenever it hits!
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  Name "UNWRITTEN" Rules That JWs Are Supposed To Follow

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as with the scribes and pharisees, there are a number of unwritten rules that witnesses are supposed to follow.

  here's a couple : "worldly" kids in society depictions are shown quite often wearing their baseball caps backwards.

  jehovah's witness youths would not want to imitate that "look".

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  DwainBowman

  I was told, don't worry so much about school, time is short, the end is coming in just a few short years, quit school, pioneer, 75 is almost here!

  I will be able to retire when I die! Well I won't be able to work that long, I am slowly losing the feelings in my feet and legs! I hope someone shoots me before I get to the totally dependent state!

  Thanks so much JW.borg!
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  What instructions came with the new brochure?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  like the title says, i'm wondering if anyone here knows what instructions came with the new brochure about returning to jehovah.

  did each person get a certain number at the convention?

  are they to be handed out at will, up to each publisher's individual discretion?

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  DwainBowman

  The how to use information will come along in the KM's down the road, along with demonstration on the service meeting!