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  INSTRUCTIONS FOR OUR CHRISTIAN LIFE AND MINISTRY MEETING

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the life and ministry meeting will proceed as outlined in the life and ministry meeting workbookand according to the instructions that follow.. 3. treasures from gods word:.

  the theme and an outline of two or three main points are provided in thelife and ministry meeting workbook.

  this should be assigned to a qualified elder.. 6. concluding comments: 3 minutes or less.

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  DwainBowman

  SOS difernt name! Always renaming stuff!
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  More help needed at Warwitch

  by DwainBowman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  well when they first started the warwitch project, only the cream of the crop were allowed to go.

  they read a letter this week in my area, inviting all brothers in good standing, to go to a special meeting for anyone with building experience.

  they must be desperate, to allow the low life plain everyday sheeple's to volunteer!.

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  I don't think the soil contamination is a factor, at all, the WT, is suing, to get back the money they have spent cleaning up the site! According to friends that I have on the inside, that's a non issue! The EPA or NY's copy of it, would have stopped the work on the site, if it had been a real threat to anyone there now!

  The new site in England, will have to have, ton's of soil removed, due to the close to 100 years of it being a junk yard, for old cars, leaking all kinds of stuff. you could probably set the ground on fire if you tried hard enough!
  

  I am by no means defending the borg, but truth is truth!

  Dwain
  
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  More help needed at Warwitch

  by DwainBowman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  well when they first started the warwitch project, only the cream of the crop were allowed to go.

  they read a letter this week in my area, inviting all brothers in good standing, to go to a special meeting for anyone with building experience.

  they must be desperate, to allow the low life plain everyday sheeple's to volunteer!.

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  Well when they first started the Warwitch project, only the cream of the crop were allowed to go. They read a letter this week in my area, inviting all brothers in good standing, to go to a special meeting for anyone with building experience. They must be desperate, to allow the low life plain everyday sheeple's to volunteer!

  I guess they really thought lot's more sheeple would just drop everything and run up to Warwitch!!!!

  Dwain
  
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  No the WT Borg is not closing! That's Wild Dreaming!

  by DwainBowman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no the wt borg is not closing!

  that's wild dreaming!

  they have been changing directions for a while now, and for whatever reasons, what is happening now is a part of that change!

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  No the WT Borg is not closing! That's Wild Dreaming! They have been changing directions for a while now, and for whatever reasons, what is happening now is a part of that change! They most likely realized, they had not really stopped to count the cost (Luke 14:28-30) of the massive world wide building project's, and deserve all the ridicule, they will receive!!. But the world headquarters, is going forward in Warwick NY, and most of the proprieties in NYC, have been sold or will be. I would guess they will keep some really downsized offices in NYC. The 1600 being let go is from all over the world, not just NY Bethell's.

  If as the up coming letter says, they really plan on a much harder push into the field service, in what ever form that may take, the dollars will start to roll in faster! Plus the hardcore faithful sheeple, will feel compelled to do more, and donate more! and somewhere down the road, the building will go forward, maybe in a scaled back form, but it will go on!

  It dose not really matter how we feel about the borg, they have deep pockets, and are organized, were all just very loosely formed groups, that for the most part, don't even know each other : (

  That's my 2 cent's Worth!

  Dwain

  The info below is copied from William Bowen's FB page!
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  Armageddon ThinkingWilliam H. Bowen·Tuesday, September 29, 2015 There have been several posts regarding the new adjustments of JWorg that include going to bi-monthly publishing of magazines, adjusting operations at Bethels around the world, stopping certain building projects, as well as indicating future adjustments in the Bethel family. For some in the xjw community this is seen as the beginning of the end and deemed as part of a financial collapse and or massive falling away of membership and general overall downfall of the organization. Sadly this cannot be further from the truth and for those on the outside it is misleading and smacks of tabloid journalism.
  There are three factors that drive the organization, membership, money, and power. How have these things faired in the last few years? 1. Membership – Growth continues with over eight million members worldwide. With the new marketing and branding of JWorg it can be expected that this will continue expedientially in the years to come. In the next three years expect to see over one million new members.2. Money – JWorg pays no salaries, provides no charity of any depth, so as a result is one of the most profitable religions in the business. While they own billions in properties around the world, they also have billions socked away in funds and stocks that are liquid assets that can be drawn on at any time. In addition, each Kingdom Hall, Regional Convention, and Assembly are nothing more than ATM’s that generate massive funds that more than covers their operating expenses. More members? More money. In 2002 with six million members they brought in 951 million dollars from the New York corp. With eight and a half million members now that means you are looking at around 1.3 billion dollars now coming in each year. They are not in any context, hurting for money, they continue to put millions in property and investments each year.3. Power – The Governing Body are more firmly entrenched than ever and without challenge. The new JWorg address allows them to get close and personal with members and make connection. They have effectively cut off the rest of the anointed from having any authority and given it all to themselves so they are in complete control. The latest drivel about the generations went off with a peep from members, because they can say anything and they will be followed. They are more firmly in power than ever in the organizations history.
  So if you sum it up the organization is getting stronger not weaker. Yes, they are having some growing pains, but these adjustments are smart moves, not ones of desperation. Printed material has been in decline for several years now and it is a very intelligent move to scale back on literature in printed form. The JWorg offers simplified delivery of all their materials and as a result will save millions. Do the math…. With less printing you will automatically need less labor and this calls for streamlining all their operations to reflect this. Fewer mouths to feed and take care of, with fewer operations to maintain and as a result, millions of dollars in savings, with essentially the same income. This will result in huge profits even greater than what they made in the past.
  We must never forget religion is a very profitable enterprise even when it is done very poorly as JWorg has done for many years. Now they are getting their act together and putting wheels in motion that will make them much more efficient and cost effective as well as far more marketable to the public. That is the big picture, so for anyone to predict their downfall, is simply a matter of Armageddon thinking, much like those within the organization. The facts are simple; Jehovah’s Witnesses are one of the wealthiest religions per capita on earth. They are getting a lot smarter with their money and marketing. The results will be growth and income in the years to come, which will mean many will need assistance by the negative way they are affected by this religion. If we can remember that our job is to help people heal and protect kids, instead of looking for the doomsday of a religion, then we can fill our time with productive activities to help those in need.
  https://www.facebook.com/notes/william-h-bowen/armageddon-thinking/10153683264546248
  
  
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  A funny little diplomatic cable regarding the Malawi atrocities against JW's in 1975

  by Saintbertholdt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  no doubt that atrocities were perpetrated against jehovah's witnesses in 1972-73.. but what about the reports in 1975?.

  here is an excerpt from a diplomatic cable sent to the us secretary of state in 1977.. the cable was released/declassified in 2009.. .... re jehovah's witnesses, why do we go back to the.

  events of 197273?

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  I looked up, Hypocrisy in the dictionary, it said, See Watchtower!
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  What was the strangest off-the-cuff remark you ever heard from and elder or higher appointee?

  by donny in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i showed up for saturday morning field service and i was partnered with an elder who had transferred to our congregation in the dallas, texas area from michigan.

  i told him about a recent embarrassing moment where i had played a "worldly" song during the sunday meeting due to someone replacing the cassette i had placed in the cassette player late friday night that had the correct "kingdom melody.".

  out of the blue he said "about 4 years ago i was giving the sunday talk and i kept sporting a boner from time to time which was bizarre since being horny and teaching about jehovah is typically not something one associates with one another.".

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  An eldub, on the platform one day during the wt study, talking about "false " churches. Said he was talking to a preacher on the steps of his church. After the preacher told him off and stepped back inside. The eldub said. "I looked around, then looked up and said, God DAMM, this place" the total shock heard by the gasps, and looks on all the faces!

  I was the reader, so I got to see and hear, the shock!

  I heard the impronto elders meeting, lasted 3 hours, that afternoon. The following Thursdays night, at the end of the sm, the co invited that eldub to the platform. He begged forgiveness, for his comments, and promised it would never happen again!

  I heard it took a threat, of public reproof, and removal as an eldub, from the circus os, to get him to applogise! It should have happened on Sunday, so the visitors, could have come to see him, beg!
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  Is Warwick still being built?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know if this new freeze on all construction projects includes the new headquarters being built in warwick?.

  if it does apply to it, then this really makes no sense whatsoever.

  the society is poised to make hundreds of millions of dollars (perhaps even a billion) by selling the properties they currently occupy in brooklyn.

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  From what was told at morning worship, the NY stuff is still going ahead, and Warwick for sure!

  Dwain
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  E-Mail, Just recived. About Bethell adjustments.

  by DwainBowman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just read an email from a friend, and she shared some very interesting emails from her friends about information on changes now happening at the bethels around the world.

  here is the email: .

  ---------------------------------thanks sally, jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes.

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  I just read an email from a friend, and she shared some very interesting emails from her friends about information on changes now happening at the Bethels around the world. Here is the email:

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  Thanks Sally, Jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes. How exciting are these times!
  Sent from my iPad
  According to three of my correspondents, in three entirely different locations, some major adjustments are to be made. A brother in Vancouver writes:

  An announcement was made today at morning worship (at all branches worldwide) that there will be major changes in an effort to reduce or save costs. The primary goals of the changes are
  1) so that expenses will not exceed donations.
  2) to speed up the work.
  3) every aspect of the organization is being looked into in an effort to save money.
  4) certain projects will be cancelled or delayed.
  5) changes with personnel and departments in Bethel.

  A sister in Essex, UK, who is helping with the British branch location and is linked in with the morning worship at London Bethel, says that a letter was read from the Governing Body this morning:

  It basically said further to the broadcast about helping contribute more money as it won't last forever, they are postponing, cancelling or majorly reducing all construction work, worldwide. This includes reducing bethel family drastically, and reducing the services they get while on bethel, like getting more to do their own laundry and housecleaning. All those that have to leave will be assigned to the field, in most cases as regular pioneers. It said that the governing body loves you very much and just to trust in Jehovah and make it a matter of prayer. They will follow with more information in the next weeks and months.

  A brother in Argentina adds:

  Building projects will be stopped and a reduction of full-time servants will be made. In addition, many Bethels are closing the dining rooms. Each Bethelite will see the morning worship from his room. For now, no more sending out special pioneers, only regular pioneers. All construction projects will be put on hold. Volunteers will return home when they finish their current assignments. The idea is to reduce costs and staff at Bethels. There will be no waiters, and meals are simplified. There will be a buffet for serving.

  Do you understand this? If more pioneers are being sent into the field, the result will be more new ones coming into the congregations. And yet, the building projects are being curtailed. So, should an announcement like this surprise us? Not at all. As we get closer to the end, some decisions may be made that we perhaps don’t understand, that may seem to go against all logic. Whatever the reasons, obeying and accepting those decisions will result in blessings.

  In the days to come, wait for more clarifications on what the meaning is for us. Especially, keep your eyes open for news from the Annual Meeting at the beginning of October.
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  Snippet from the weekly meeting of the governing body of JW org, September 2015

  by Half banana in

  1. social
  2. humour

  actual in-house accounts (as opposed to the official ones) having been read out.

  the chair:.

  ...so there we have it brothers, were up shit creek!

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  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA It would be fun being a fly on the wall!!!!
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  What is the most strange action of a witness while out in field service?

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was paired with this older "brother" when i was a teenager.

  he was very very strange.

  he was a nice guy but goofy.

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  Working college areas, can be surprising.

  I have knocked on doors, and been told to come in. Open the door to a room full of almost naked girls. It's a game they play, just to rattle people! A number of times it has happened to me. I always go right ahead and make my presentation, and offer! Twice, I have received a standing ovation! For not getting all rattled and messing up!

  One naked drunk college girl ran and grabbed me and and started hugging and kissing me, and ran her hand down my pants so fast, and she wouldn't let go!

  OMG what a rush!

  Dwain