It seems to me, it's been that way in the US since the late 80's or early 90's.
Dwain
a new arrangement for appointing regular pioneers has been announced.. in the past, a person would have to fill in a form from the society, this would have to be approved by the local elders, then this would be sent to the branch for final approval and appointment.. now it is just the local elders that approve it.
it doesn't need the branch approval any more.. they are selling it as a way to "speed up the process in order to be more effective in the ministry during these urgent times blah blah".
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It seems to me, it's been that way in the US since the late 80's or early 90's.
Dwain
we received this link through an email chain.
not too sure what the purpose is....it's mostly about food.. .
vimeopro.com/user4747451/tnvideo.
I lived in a number of cities in Tn. I know a few in the vid. And have seen several of the men on stage at ca's and dc's. The opening girl I have known for a long time!
some may remember the time when the private study edition of the wt wasn't to be made available to outsiders, and the df'd.. now, with the recent boe letter, sept 1, 2014, it specifically states that jw.org is making the km available even for df'd individuals.. do you sense a new trend developing?.
I am sure they put thst in print about everyone, including dfed people, was to preempt others seeing dfed ones with km's on their tablets, and going crazy! I mean, can't you just see brother toe the line draging some poor dfed sister in the back room, going off on her having the gall, to download the km, knowing it's only for jw's in good standing, and reporting time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And all the calls to borgdom!
Dwain
ask any jehovah's witness you happen to see to explain the recent changes to the anointed and faithful slave, most have no ideas how they are robbing all authority from the anointed jws to keep for themselves.
they can't even explain the "overlapping generation", how can we expect them to catch the errors this dogma is teaching them.
this article is written by someone who knows about jws and explains in details how bad this doctrine is, it's full of holes!.
I know of one professed anointed, that went to Brooklyn to let the rest of the gb in on the new light he had received. Upon returning home, a letter came with instructions to the local body to remove his privileges, and to mark him! I guess he raised hell while he was up there visiting! He really thought they were going to roll out the red carpet for him, and blow the trumpet's. Instead he was dfed, within a year for, you guedted it, apostasy! This was back around 82.
Dwain
some may remember the time when the private study edition of the wt wasn't to be made available to outsiders, and the df'd.. now, with the recent boe letter, sept 1, 2014, it specifically states that jw.org is making the km available even for df'd individuals.. do you sense a new trend developing?.
End dfing, after the new harder line they are drawing in the November study issue, I think not. I don't ever remember a time where they tighten the shackle, then turned around, and unlocked them!
Dwain
I am a lifer, 56 years of borgdom. I have been in over 25 congregation, and seen or heard just everything borg related. I was invited to bethel when I was 17, but had some health issues come up. Servent 20+ years.
I have been in congregation that were very small, and when the wt came along, all parties stopped! The main parties this was aimed at, were where a congregation had a party, and larger numbers from nearby congregation showed up, with nobody, knowing for sure who was there or even if they were jw's or not, or as in some cases, even df'ed ones showed up! One congregation I was in a short time after that, had 40 publishers, and parties over book study size were a no no! And I have been in larger ones, that as long as everyone was know to be in good standing, it was ok. They still frowned on 100+ parties, but not at weddings and the like!
Remember back in the early 80's, when at the dc the comment was made, "Brothers keep your hands off the Sisters" thry meant in inappropriate ways, not a friendly hug or things like that. Till this day you will find congregation, were no one hugs anyone!
If a boe can SCREW UP simple directions, just imagine what they do with others!
Dwain
i'm new to this website and i thought i'd create a profile.
i was disfellowshipped in july of 2013 in another city.
i since moved and starting going to meeting about 6 months ago in my new city.
I would just say, I feel I am ready to be reinstated! I am deeply sadden over my former course, and how badly my actions hurt Jehovah!
The less said in this letter, the better in my book. They will ask all about what happened when they meet with you. They also have to related everything back to the dfing congregation, for they make the final decision!
Dwain
when i was a jw several brothers (ms) told me in private that the elders had asked them several times if they did not want to become an elder.
they said they rejected because it was too much responsibility for them.
were you ever approached that the boe wanted to make you an elder but you refused?
I was 3 times over the years in different congregation, I turnd it down each time. Being an ms for 20+ years was political enough, being careful witch elders you close to, witch ones to really listen to. Having to tip toeing around, when you have two elders with the god complex, and each hates the other! Not thst all the different elder bodies I worked with were like this, but enough were!
Dwain
i was driving our car going to our assigned territory for our sunday field minsitry (was with jw 2 sisters) when i saw a disfellowshipped jw riding his motorcycle heading towards us.
the guy was df'd around 2 months ago only (won't delve much on his case).
approximately about 10 meters, we saw him smile.
On the was to the DC, 20 some years ago in Atlanta, i saw a car off the side of the highway, i knew the young woman was a df'ed sister. i stopped to see what was wrong. Poor girl with a 6 month old baby, she was setting in the hot sun crying! I ask what was wrong with the car, she said it just died. i spent thirty minutes working on it, and got it running. She told me, that one of the elders was behind her when the car died, and they he passed her, and gave her the most evil look she had ever seen!! And they a number of others had went to the other side of the road, so as not to even get close to her.
I have helpped other Df'ed people along the way as well, but her's was the one that has always made me MAD!!!!!!!
Dwain
i went to the meeting this morning and we had some guy from overseas bethel give the public talk.
6 countries subsidize the rest.
he said in some countries all the donations that they get from contributions don't even pay the electricity bill for the branch buildings so money has to come in from these 6 richer countries.
I am supprised they have not gone to an email subricption to the wt/aw yet. The can count all kinds of copies delivered!!!!!!!
Dwain