Posts by A.proclaimer

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My Story

by Brother Mike in

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my story is long, heart stopping, tragic, and puzzling.

since i posted what was said to be my last post, i received a private message which sparked my attention about the watchtower.

immediately i did research, and have found not only proof from outside sources, but the watchtower openly admitting it.

Sorry to hear about your losses, your father and the change with your friend. You have had many big changes in your life which would affect anyone of us going through it. Of course, this does not mean it is time to give up but to keep moving through all obstacles! We're here for support and answers needed. What issue sparked your research? If you don't mind being asked. Continue seeking and researching. There is much to learn out there. Remember, the truth shall set you free.

take care now!

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9/11 resemblance

by A.proclaimer in

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friends

i found this picture while searching through the old watchtowers.

this one is in the july 15, 1975 (spanish).

i don't know what date it would be for the english edition.

A.proclaimer

I found this picture while searching through the old Watchtowers. This one is in the July 15, 1975 (spanish). I don't know what date it would be for the English edition. It sure reminded me of 9/11.

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plesase help me: examples of true prophets being wrong

by nonjwspouse in

my husband insists all the men chosen to be prophets were inperfect men.

i agreed.

i do not agree that what they prophacied about; said was from the word of god; could ever be wrong.

A.proclaimer

The examples JW's use as to "justify" a false or errored message is by saying that the disciples had "wrong expectation" when they asked Christ whether he was going to restore his kingdom at the time. They also use another example about how the disciples didn't understand what Jesus meant when he said that the temple was to be restored in three days (something like that). They didn't get the full meaning until Jesus was resurrected three days later and appeared to them. It's at the bottom of the page

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013003

it's been discussed before:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/249530/1/False-prophets-or-simply-wrong-expectations#.UqqSgu-9LCQ

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Did you feel nervous before/while giving talks?

by likeabird in

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the subject of feeling nervous came up in sfpw recent thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/268270/2/im-curious-when-you-were-asked-to-do-a-demo-for-a-service-meeting-part-how-did-the-request-make-you-feel#.uqgz_0nd13b.

it reminded me of a sister i knew.

you always knew when you got to the meeting if she had a talk that night.

A.proclaimer

There was one ministerial servant long ago in my old congregation who would take out his hanky and wipe his forehead while giving talks. He got very nervous. I felt bad for him seeing how he would work up a sweat and wipe often.

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"Worship that God Approves" chapter 15

by A.proclaimer in

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friends

this is the title of the 15th chapter in the "what does the bible really teach book".

so i have to study this book and am doing it with an elder.

after taking long breaks inbetween the study, this is the chapter that is coming up.

A.proclaimer

Thanks guys! I was thinking of bringing up some of those points; the changing doctrines, 1914 (I'm rearching those topics and gathering information). Some of those question you asked jwfacts have gone through my mind before. It would be good to bring them up, thanks.

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"Worship that God Approves" chapter 15

by A.proclaimer in

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friends

this is the title of the 15th chapter in the "what does the bible really teach book".

so i have to study this book and am doing it with an elder.

after taking long breaks inbetween the study, this is the chapter that is coming up.

A.proclaimer

I have family reasons, and from people in the congregation.

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"Worship that God Approves" chapter 15

by A.proclaimer in

jw
friends

this is the title of the 15th chapter in the "what does the bible really teach book".

so i have to study this book and am doing it with an elder.

after taking long breaks inbetween the study, this is the chapter that is coming up.

A.proclaimer

This is the title of the 15th chapter in the "what does the bible really teach book". So I have to study this book and am doing it with an elder. After taking long breaks inbetween the study, this is the chapter that is coming up. This is the chapter that is suppose to convince you that this is the "truth". Anyway, I was looking for suggestions anyone might have so I can tackle this chapter. I don't fully agree with what it's trying to do and neither do I think there is a single true religion. I don't want to be too upfront or forward about this since I have expectations to meet (I'm born and raised in this religion so I'm expected to be in agreement). But I want to do it in a more subtle way, whether its disagreeing with somethings or putting in questions about certain things or raising certain points. Any suggestions?

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Interesting changes for the 2014 service meeting...

by OneDayillBeFree in

if you look at the first page of the kingdom ministry for december (link here), read the talk entitled: "the theocratic ministry school for 2014".

here is a copy of what it says (bold & red mine).

talk by the school overseer.

A.proclaimer

I'm not surprised if they will make changes, it's expected that they will be coming out with new material and update old stuff. With all this "new light" and revisions, some of the information available is now invalid. So I agree that there will be new bookupcoming big soon. Probably all paperback since they're cutting down on costs. Might be thinner too judging from all the recent books.

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February 2014- Watchtower Public edition now available!

by A.proclaimer in

the new watchtower public edition titled "the war that chnaged the world" and the awake titled "how to invest your time wisely" for february are up.

looks like they are still sticking to 1914. they do talk about the war and tie it in with the 1914 interpretation.. watchtower public:.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20140201/.

A.proclaimer

The new Watchtower Public edition titled "The War that Chnaged the World" and the Awake titled "How to Invest your Time Wisely" for February are up. Looks like they are still sticking to 1914. They do talk about the war and tie it in with the 1914 interpretation.

Watchtower Public:

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20140201/

Awake:

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201402/

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Home schooled witness kids

by stillin in

sorry if i'm stepping on any toes here, but i haven't seen anything positive about home-schooling...at all.

the notion is that parents are taking advantage of the formative years to inculcate more worthwhile values while protecting their kids from worldly influences.

they end up with lazy, socially inept, illiterate duds who haven't a clue.

A.proclaimer

One of the reasons they put their kids into homeschooling is to go out in service. I've heard of a few homeschooled kids who do that since now they have more time available. Another reason (as said before) is fear of "worldy" students and influences. I was out in service one time and a sister who was going to put her kid into homeschool and telling me how it was better because then her child wouldn't be pressured and face bad influences. She asked me if I would ever take homeschooling. I told her no since going to school allows you to see other people and interact. Then I said how not everyone was bad, it all really depends who you hang out with. And it really does since even kids in the Kingdom Hall can be bad influences sometimes.