approximately 90 of the Australian Bethelites are being retrenched at this stage. and special pioneers young and not so young have got their walking ticket.
jonahstourguide
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Let's Consolidate World Branch Layoff Threads - Oct 2015
by TheListener inthere has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.
south africa.
united states.
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Brooklyn Layoffs and Halt to Kingdom Hall construction projects
by James Jack ina good source just just told me that at morning worship today that the governing body announced that a total of 1600 bethelites will be let get go and not transferred to warwich when the last property is sold in brooklyn and all kingdom hall building projects are on hold for at least a year so that all the focus will be on the preaching work.
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jonahstourguide
Similar situation here in Australia. Although no mention
of KHall construction on hold yet
jtg
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Where you are in your life now.....What would you have preferred .... To be left in ignorance ? ...Or to know the truth about the truth
by smiddy ini think possibly their are a few valid reasons for either options to this question ,depending on a number of factors .. such as how old you might be, how long you have devoted your life to the "truth" as you believed it .
?....how it may affect your mental/physical health and well being.?.
how it will affect your financial position in your life ,?
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jonahstourguide
I love the question Smiddy.
And i'm in Oz.
And i cannot but attempt to address the 'dot points' Old enough to have been plucked out of education due to 1975. 23 years born in at that time and lasted till 34 yrs. At the risk of a psychological melt down i walked,,,,,, into the arms of the homosexual community that accepted me as a human being,,, that was an enlightenment. i am a hetro male of the species by the way. Given that i went on to enjoy life after the wt was brilliant. I moulded a life for me, i wallowed in the freedom that really exists apart from wt stalag 13. Ok, life as a single person can be lonely irrespective of any ecclesiastical views. but i moved forward and out of the restrictive mind controlling gb inspired fears, and i realised it was a dream never to come true. Now however (4 years ago) I've tried to have another shot at "making the truth my own" Ha Ha famous last words. Never good to be ignorant. I did the research after i was reinstated to get the bottom line. thats when the reality started to become evident. Goodness me !!!!! as it happens I dont have family relationships to deal with and I genuinely empathise with those that do. I have, however made some genuine friends during my 'return' and i worry for them given that I now know the 'bottom line' So for now i'm gonna play it cool and go with the flow and slowly help my friends to see the tatt. Tell Ya what Smiddy as you know ... stickin youre head in the sand does not work.
jtg
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Speculation: Female Ministerial Servants coming soon
by Londo111 inive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.
in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..
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jonahstourguide
Yep wouldn't work.
How dey gonna keep da secret boys club in their own
lunchbox intact?
jtg
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Speculation: Female Ministerial Servants coming soon
by Londo111 inive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.
in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..
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jonahstourguide
So then,
Even if they cannot be "appointed" as a 'helper' certain tasks could be performed.
Could they for example be the cobe's helper or the service overseer helpers?
the eldub has say 3 'positions' but the female 'helpers' do the hard work???
Sound department 'helpers'? Heaven knows many do the stuff for older
computer illiterate and organisationally bereft males.
Dunno, juz wondering.
jtg (lookin for loopholes)
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Speculation: Female Ministerial Servants coming soon
by Londo111 inive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.
in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..
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jonahstourguide
@ dozy,
Hey the use of the word HELPER jumps outta da page at me.
Are't they using the term for speakers at conventions?
Like "governing body helper"
I'm now wondering...... co's wives? eldubs wives? special female bethelites?
Females from the translation dept?? Female pioneers??
As for me I'm all for it,,,,da gender bias unsettles my bowels and
overworks my anal orifice,,ha ha..
jtg
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TTATT in a Can... finally finished!!
by ILoveTTATT inok so... how to condense all the flip-flops and doctrinal changes, and show graphically how the different doctrines changed, and when?.
ttatt in a can!!.
enjoy ;).
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jonahstourguide
Mate, this is fantastic. Thanks for taking the time.
Going to come in REAL handy.
jtg
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Don't you hate it when they just comment from the paragraph?
by toto555 inisn't that just annoying?
can people even comment in their own words anymore?
how bad is it where you're at?
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jonahstourguide
If you do comment in your own words the wt conductor then says
"what does the paragraph say bruvvas?" and re asks the question !!!!
thats in my neck of the woods anyhow
jtg
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Vicars to be vetted ..New laws on working with children...
by smiddy inthis article appeared on friday may 9, 2014 in the herald sun newspaper in victoria australia.. matt johnston is a state politics reporter.. quote :" all religous ministers will need working with children checks and a new system will be created for organisations to report alleged child abuse,under a $ 10 million state government reform.".
premier denis napthine revealed the new measures,a further response to the state parliments`s child abuse inquiry report,betrayal of trust .. "many ordinary parish based ministers may not have required a wwc check.under this rule , every minister for religion who has any contact with children will require such a check ," he said.. opposition community services spokeswoman jenny mikakos called for the government to move quicker to "address the issues identified".
my concern is, will the watchtower org./jehovahs witnesses /jw.org.
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jonahstourguide
THanks Listener, it was the 14 bucks for the passport pics,,, now i remember!
jtg
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Today's wt study re "selfishness"
by stuckinarut2 inoh god!!
today's study is so full of classic manipulative comments..... i can't even begin to tear it apart.......... anyone want to start?.
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jonahstourguide
Yep.
Where the hell does the bible say peter was thinking that james and john might get his spot????
Where the hell does the bible say that peter was the only one upset at the nepotistic scheme of james and john
to get the best seats in the temple by getting their mum (sooks) who happened to be jesus aunty to ask him?????
the bible says the 10 others got upset and so they should at the nepotistic little sooky bastards. Selfish????
They all got a dressing down after that not just peter. I like peter, he was cool, a dynamic apostle with a open and
honest personality.
just my two bobs worth
jtg