Posts by jonahstourguide

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Clarifying who can be labelled Creationist.

by jonahstourguide in

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friends

hi folks.

october 15 2013 study watchtower page 7 para 3. the paragraph states that.

"fundamentalists of christendom teach that the universe, including our earth.

jonahstourguide

Hi Folks

October 15 2013 study watchtower page 7 para 3. The paragraph states that

"fundamentalists of Christendom teach that the universe, including our earth

and all life on it, is only a few thousand years old. Those who teach this doctrine

- known as creationism-....... etc etc" (it would take me hours to type the whole lot).

My question is... Would not WTBTS be classified as Creationists albeit Old Earth Creationists ?

Some of you will no doubt find the sentence in the same paragraph referring to these fundamentalists

who teach this doctrine as interesting... " They reject credible scientific evidence that contradicts their view"

jtg

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The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad in

this past week's wt study lesson was entitled: 'pioneering strengthens our relationship with god'.. under the subheading 'remaining in the full-time service' in par 14 the wt has the nerve to give this admonition to pioneers: .

'desiring to learn from jesus' example, a pioneer does well to keep in mind that the more material things he has, the more he will have to maintain , repair, or replace.'.

i don't think the gb or anyone in the writing department has the freedom to speak on giving adivce on the matter of 'material things' given the fact that wt has close to a billion dollars in real estate and loads of money in various bank accounts; given the fact that gb is currently building themselves new living quarters with who knows what sort of comforts and other amenities.

jonahstourguide

Is another person writing SFPW's posts ????? Gotta be a new script writer.

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#3 talk tonight

by wallsofjericho in

anyone else have a #3 talk tonight?

i wrote a talk but i don't like it.. anyone have one written they wanna post?

i'll show you mine if you show me yours!

jonahstourguide

FWIW

Wallsofjericho, find and use better scripts and only cite these two as you feel somewhere in the talk.

I've done this before with "boring" reference material. Haven't had a lecture yet.

jtg

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The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad in

this past week's wt study lesson was entitled: 'pioneering strengthens our relationship with god'.. under the subheading 'remaining in the full-time service' in par 14 the wt has the nerve to give this admonition to pioneers: .

'desiring to learn from jesus' example, a pioneer does well to keep in mind that the more material things he has, the more he will have to maintain , repair, or replace.'.

i don't think the gb or anyone in the writing department has the freedom to speak on giving adivce on the matter of 'material things' given the fact that wt has close to a billion dollars in real estate and loads of money in various bank accounts; given the fact that gb is currently building themselves new living quarters with who knows what sort of comforts and other amenities.

jonahstourguide

Brother Mike..... lets be calm..... What is Truth that "people wont except" ??????

I never studied grammar but sumptin don make sense !!

jtg

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The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad in

this past week's wt study lesson was entitled: 'pioneering strengthens our relationship with god'.. under the subheading 'remaining in the full-time service' in par 14 the wt has the nerve to give this admonition to pioneers: .

'desiring to learn from jesus' example, a pioneer does well to keep in mind that the more material things he has, the more he will have to maintain , repair, or replace.'.

i don't think the gb or anyone in the writing department has the freedom to speak on giving adivce on the matter of 'material things' given the fact that wt has close to a billion dollars in real estate and loads of money in various bank accounts; given the fact that gb is currently building themselves new living quarters with who knows what sort of comforts and other amenities.

jonahstourguide

Weren't any stumbled where I was, we just wondered what dictionary definition

he was using, and what else he may have been. Da fing is, there is a considerable amount of disquiet evident within the org today.

As we all "study our heritage" we become abundantly aware of the increase in human inconsistency

within the org that has origins going back many decades. And don't come back with the imperfect men like David bit.

BTW, during the consideration of this article the deafening silence of pioneers' answer's in the hall was eerie.

jtg

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The Gall Of WT To Give This Advice To Pioneers:

by JW GoneBad in

this past week's wt study lesson was entitled: 'pioneering strengthens our relationship with god'.. under the subheading 'remaining in the full-time service' in par 14 the wt has the nerve to give this admonition to pioneers: .

'desiring to learn from jesus' example, a pioneer does well to keep in mind that the more material things he has, the more he will have to maintain , repair, or replace.'.

i don't think the gb or anyone in the writing department has the freedom to speak on giving adivce on the matter of 'material things' given the fact that wt has close to a billion dollars in real estate and loads of money in various bank accounts; given the fact that gb is currently building themselves new living quarters with who knows what sort of comforts and other amenities.

jonahstourguide

But Brother Mike, I still vividly recall the words of a D.O.

on dealing with the accusation of brainwashing.

"What's wrong with being brainwashed ????"

"I'm happy to be brainwashed if it gives me eternal life!!"

Be happy Bro Mike !!!

jtg still figuring that one ou t

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Britain scanned KM's wanted - Can you oblige?

by KateWild in

i am having a littertrash break for a couple of months.

the nonsense irates me.. as far as teaching my son critical thinking skills, i do know i have to keep up with the congregation "bile" study, the misery school and circus meeting items.

christmas and his b-day is sorted for this month.

jonahstourguide

I have the Australia/ New Zealand issue and they are

identical to U.S.A. apart from the last announcements section

which is localised.

jtg

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Interesting changes for the 2014 service meeting...

by OneDayillBeFree in

if you look at the first page of the kingdom ministry for december (link here), read the talk entitled: "the theocratic ministry school for 2014".

here is a copy of what it says (bold & red mine).

talk by the school overseer.

jonahstourguide

Bit like the resurrection shuffle on Gomorrah.

The Live Forever book in cdlib was updated to say no whereas

the Insight Vol 2 still states yes. You really need to double check

all wt references to see which one is the latest correct view.

I'm still in but am finding difficulty with the "driving standards stewards"

Its all a bit like CAMS they've got rules and statutes but don't know how

to apply them and when. ,,,,,, Confederation of Australian Motor Sport, that is

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Interesting changes for the 2014 service meeting...

by OneDayillBeFree in

if you look at the first page of the kingdom ministry for december (link here), read the talk entitled: "the theocratic ministry school for 2014".

here is a copy of what it says (bold & red mine).

talk by the school overseer.

jonahstourguide

Julia,

It stops any who don't keep up with new light using p 234 first paragraph in rs book

on explanation of last days. " and some of the generation alive then (1914) will also be

on hand to witness its (wicked system of things) complete end in the "great tribulation.

jtg its old light here but the first thing I looked for,,, lol.

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I asked an elder today...from the horse's mouth!

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

today's watchtower made out that the combining of branch offices around the world is a loving provision from jehovah to streamline the production, but i had to ask an elder afterwards, even though i already knew the answer.... "if the wts is selling off bethels and brooklyn property and cutting the publishing costs and commitments, then where is all that money going?".

elder replies, "well the donations are just not coming in anymore and so they have to sell off property to stay afloat.".

gee, i thought if this was jehovah's approved organisation carrying vital truth to the world, then he'd be making sure the donations would be sufficient.

jonahstourguide

Hi Julia fyi

Searching for something else and came across this thread.

I am in Oz and in 2011 the non profit financial return showed that

$18,388,395.00 was received in donations. Up from $13,378,741.00

in year ended August 2010.

Donations and overseas aid (outgoings) was $ 4,720,856.00, this

amount was apart from the rest being spent in oz for

teaching, evangelizing and bethel services.

doc i.d. 027755824 abn 42 002 861 225 page 13 0f 22

Regards

jtg