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  I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.

  i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).

  when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.

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  The thought/feeling that JWS have 'higher standards' is an illusion. The Emperor has no clothes.

  Don't judge a book by its cover .....

  Some of the people i know in my city:
  
  That 6 ft+ young guy walking down the street with the foot-long mohawk and wearing a dog collar? He volunteers at the Church up the street, serving up Sunday suppers to the homeless/poor.

  The woman panhandlng in front of the coffee shop - no make-up, kinda scruffy looking - she has an MI, and her husband sends her out to pan every day - beats her if she doesn't. She has a smile that lights up the whole downtown when I give her a hug.

  There's a 30-something man on the street corner, playing his guitar (awesomely) and belting out Bob Dylan tunes. He's wearing a 50s style cap, second hand clothes - he's a bit grimy and tired looking, but man can he play guitar! He works as a dishwasher to support himself, and plays on the street corner because it's just so hard to find a gig and as an artist, he needs to share his music.

  Appearances are just that. I know, the JWS are very "shiny" - always fashionable, dressed nice, no cussing (in public) - but where is the reality? The pain and the glory, of a life that is LIVED.

  It may be a bit scary to look 'out' from inside the b'Org, but trust me, the mosaic of folks you will meet in real life is far more interesting, and filled with amazing people, each with her/his own story.

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  Just Read 1.5 Hours worth of Conti Case Files

  by lambsbottom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  read 1.5 hours worth on conti case files (examination & cross-examination).

  here is my take (and i consider myself a pretty logical person able to set aside emotion...i've never been abuse but know people who have been).. the jury was completely right in awarding the judgement to conti.

  as far as the award amount, i don't care to comment on.

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  Welcome to the board, J.C.

  Indeed, that is a good place to draw the line, for the sake of the children.

  There have been developments in Australia, because of a man named Steven Unthank, who pressed the government to make changes. There are threads about it here, and newspaper articles to be found by using a google search.

  I hope you stick around and enjoy the discussion. When and if you feel comfortable, start a thread and tell us a bit about yourself - or not - whatever your comfort level.

  talesin
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  I saw a trolley (cart to you cousins in the U.S.A.)

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes.. peterborough city center u.k. ''what does the bible really teach'' displayed on it.. a family of 3 i know were sitting on the bench just behind it.

  i'm not going to say anything derogatory about them as they are nice folks even if they have to shun me now i bear no malice.. as predicted not a single person was paying any attention as they walked by.

  i noticed some other canvassers (non religious), were actively approaching people and handing out leaflets.. on the market i saw the jw charity stall and again not a single soul was interested or even near it.. i'm glad this 'urgent never to be repeated work(tm)' is being vigorously carried out by god's chosen people.

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  Heaven

  Yes, there is one a few blocks from me (Halifax), and I've seen pics (well, they were photoshopped to make it look like the JWS were set up in front of a strip bar, so I don't know how legit the photo was) in Dartmouth.

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  Just letting you know I passed the exam

  by will-be-apostate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi, my apostate friends.. a couple of weeks ago i asked for some advice regarding studying methods.

  then some of you asked me to let you know my score after i take the exam at mineralogy.. i scored 90%.

  i'm pretty happy with it because the exams i take are not in my native language.. if i keep up with the good scores i might get a scholarship and then bye bye watchtower society.

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  I didn't mean it that way, you should be proud of yourself. That's not bragging, just sharing your good feelings.

  xx

  tal
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  Please, take a moment to help...

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.

  we are splattering this petition all over the world.

  please, even if you feel it will do no good, take a moment and sign.. .

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  Right now, we do not believe that the Elders ever intended to help us at all — the vote of the congregation notwithstanding. We believe that the original statements were given to placate us; that they always intended to do what they wanted no matter what. They are the first of any religion that we have met who have lied to us… a very, very sorry statement to write. We do not find them Good Neighbors.

  This is sad. When you are disabled, helpless in some ways, and get treated like this, it makes one feel less than a piece of dog poo on someone's shoe.

  I hope lots of people sign, if only to let them know that people DO care.

  smh

  xx

  tal
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  This week's WT study...made me so sick.....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this week's study april 15th 2014 was called "do you see the one who is invisible?".

  it was perhaps one of the most depressing, controlling, fear-mongering, stress inducing, doctrinally incorrect, hate-inspiring, judgemental, cult-like, irrational, hyped-up, critical, crazy, stretched out, fanciful, illogical, burdensome, inflated, coersive, manipulative, and brain-snappingly weird stuff i have read for some time.... (but i'm sure it was just a rehash and repeat of previous stuff...for the new masses....).

  i had to keep up a sane appearance while in the hall, and even answer some garbage while this was being 'studied'... my cognitive disonance must be so strong now, because i found this one of the hardest ones to endure....now that i am home, i have poured a stiff drink and am trying to clear my head...... one paragraph was classic:.

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  HeyThere, good idea, you have a PM It's very late here, shoot me one back and I'll get it tomorrow. :)
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  Are You a Photic Sneezer?

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. physical

  i am, and my wife never believed me that a sudden bright light can make me sneeze.

  apparently a third of humans are photic sneezers.

  although the exact mechanism isn't fully understood it may be that a strong signal in the optic nerve can stimulte a nearby branch of the trigeminal nerve.. its time to come out the closet and be proud of your crossed wires.. ....

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  Does it make you sneeze many times in a row? Maybe 10 or 12, all short, then one big one. Then *poof* it's over.

  That is what happens to me.

  It happened when I was pregnant, too. A lot.

  I wonder if the two are related? Though the latter would seem to perhaps be hormonal (that is just my conjecture based on anecdotal evidence J/K *grin*).

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  What does this sentence mean?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the very first sentence of the topic "inspiration" at "insight on the scriptures" volume 1, page 1202 reads:.

  "the quality or state of being moved by or produced under the direction of a spirit from a superhuman source.".

  is it defining "inspiration" as a "quality or state"?.

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  Dating Advice needed

  by KateWild in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  well i joined two dating sites yesterday and i have had lots of messages.

  a couple of guys want to chat to me by phone to get to know me better.

  i've been asked out on two dates.

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  I was considering POF or some other free site, but I hesitate.

  Before internet dating, there were newspaper ads, similar set up. You registered, and contact was by phone. So, I took a chance and replied to a message. He lived an hour's drive away, and we arranged to meet for coffee downtown, in a neutral location.

  Well, he did lie about his looks (ack), but I was willing to overlook that. Once the conversation got started, though, it didn't take long before I was thinking "Oy, glad this is a public place and I can ditch him". About 10 minutes into it, he mentioned that he was still recovering from his last relationship,,,,, with a 17 YO girl! This guy was early 30s.
  
  I, being the shy and retiring type I am, took the opportunity to 'educate' him on the creepiness of 30-something men dating 17 YO girls, told him I was gong to the ladies', and made the dash.

  I dunno, maybe I'll give it a whirl. I've been single far too long, and there could be someone who wants a gimpy, ex-fashion victim who is still holding up pretty good in spite of it all. :P

  xx

  tal
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  Wearing a wire

  by Hairtrigger in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  hye folks-just wanted some info.

  is wearing a wire to a jc or any other meeting an easy-to-do thing.

  how do you go about trying to find to an agency that hires out equipment?

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  PS. There are different rules for the Police - they are 'intercepting' calls, and have stricter guidelines.

  (But in reality, we know that Big Brother can, of course, with the new anti-terrorism laws, listen in any time he wants, and we have no say in the matter.)