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  When did the last days start ?

  by raymond frantz in

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  somewhere hidden well within the jw.org exists an article about the last days of the last days of the jewish system of things .when did the last days of the jewish system of things start was it at the pentecost or before that ?

  is that important when we compare jesus' days our days as a way to find what will initiate them ?

  i wrote a small post in relation to this any extra valid information towards this will be much appreciated.

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  KateWild

  66 CE, Wehn the roman soldiers sourrounded Jerusalem?????????????? That's one date that seems reasonable for a WT article. Kate xx
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  Question for "apostate" couples.

  by 3rdgen in

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  hi everyone!

  today i was reminded that just because both of us left the wtbt$ we are not always on the same page.. .

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  He doesn't want to be reminded every day because he is bitter, angry. and touchy.-3rdgen

  There are stages of recovery as he has less time and less inclination it seems like he is stuck in the first stage.

  I came out without my husband. He was my ex when I left so I can't speak from that perspective. But My daughter and I left within months of eachother. She has recovered in her own way and we sometimes do argue over JW stuff. One time she got very angry and resentful and I thought she would never speak to me again, but now she has completely worked through it and is really upbeat with me and a chatterbox.

  Everyone is different I suppose, she did start a thread on JWN about her story, but she hasn't been back since then, whereas I feel the need to check in daily.

  Kate xx
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  KateWild

  Ceades,

  You are obviously offended by my posts. I apologise I didn't realise I would cause offense. It's clear that you have misunderstood me and hopefully we can reach some kind of agreement. Concrete thinkers do not have the ability to have flexibility of thought. If you are a flexible thinker then you are not a concrete thinker. Having flexibility of thought doesn't mean you have the ability to think in abstract terms. Being flexible is different from being an abstract thinker.

  You used the phrase " pointing out that your 'concrete' thinker" I am sorry if you thought my post was aimed at you as being a concrete black and white thinker. From all of the posts that I have read from you I see no evidence that you are.

  Apologies again for offending you

  Kate xx
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  HELP! Elder bombarded me with scripture...& I don't know what to do.

  by Smoky in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been lurking on this site for many years.

  i rarely post anything, because my english isnt the best and not sure if anyone understands.

  i just recently had a run in with an elder, have not seen him in a few years.

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  You have drawn your own conclusion after reading some posts and you have taken good advice. Indoctrinated elders are in a cult and it's hard to wake them up to a normal belief. Kate xx
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  KateWild

  The thread is about evolution and spirits cofty. If a person has had an experience they can believe in both as they are not mutually exclusive. I was just responding to Ceades post as he did not know what concrete and abstract thinking is.

  Kate xx
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  Evolution and spirits

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.

  however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.

  i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.

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  Caedes,

  You have made a wrong assumption about my beliefs. I don't believe in ghosts. You don't know what concrete and abstract thinking is. Changing your mind does not mean you're an abstract thinker. I am afraid you're mistaken about a lot of things in my post and sadly I did not post clearly enough to help you see my perspective.

  Abstract thinking is a skill that adults develop. It's the ability to read between the lines with out all the evidence. The ability to have dicernment about a particular situation or topic and draw conclusions based on limited information. Concrete thinking is black and white thinking. Only drawing conclusions if you can see them. The world is not black and white, showing understanding for a variety of people and situations requires abstract thinking, we can't always see everything, so we need the ability to read between the lines and teach our children to do the same.

  Kate xx
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  a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

  by alexandre in

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  a baptized girl from my former cong.

  was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

  she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

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  There are two big problems here that are seperate.

  1. Consensual child porn. This is a big problem like FHN quite rightly states. School children are experimenting with sex and with access to video phones they are recording everything and sending eacother inappropriate pictures. This needs to be adressed in schools just like drugs or bullying. I am sure some schools would have already had an assembly or two about it.

  2. Child dfing. This is also a big problem, a childs whole fututre can be shaped by shunning and isolation. This punisment will not bring any rich rewards, all teenagers need there trusted friends and family more than ever or they will seek friendship with inappropriate people wanting to take advantage of them.

  Thans for the info. this was a sad story to read.

  Kate xx
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  Despicable crazy people

  by jgnat in

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  2. current

  there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.

  i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.

  the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.

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  There does seem to be countries that allow mental patients slip through the net, especially if they start to become unwell and have no support system around them. The UK seems to be failing theor patients too. Kate xx
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  Why JWs are a CULT - ULTIMATE POST

  by Black Man in

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  2. friends

  hey all - i wanted to make a post to consolidate all the great info, posts, links about why jws are a cult (the signs, symptoms, everything, etc).. would love to have the definitions and specific examples of how jws fit those definitions/descriptions.. thanks in advance!

  love you guys!!.

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  KateWild

  I would say a cult has a measure of control over it's members. Just like Oub said with the BITE model

  Behaviour control

  Information control

  Thought control

  Emotion control

  Kate xx
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  Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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  Every piece of evidence in the video is a fact.-cofty

  Exactly my point. There was a perfect point that I found myself critically thinking the facts. But the video does not promote critical thinking, at the most common sense part of the video to promote it. I checked out the point from a number of sources and determined it was factual, this movement does not promote critical thinking as they claim, they have another more incidious agenda in my view. Don't insult my intelligence I have read the FB page, the agenda isn't hidden.

  Kate xx