LOL hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this the end of the world????
Kate xx
in 1823, john aquila brown (a man who is not mentioned in any wt publication) came up with a bizarre mathematical calculation which totalled 2,520 years (in an unauthorized attempt to predict the end of the gentile times).... several religions recycled this bizarre calculation, including the adventists and the bible students... when armageddon didn't come on the variety of early 20th century dates predicted by several "dooms-day" religions of that time (including charles taze russell's bible students who predicted that the big a would start in 1914), they all finally realized that this 2,520-year calculation was nothing more than arbitrary mathematical speculation derived from erratic biblical extrapolation.... except for the bible students who continued to move up the date for armageddon 2 more times (1918, 1925) and then decided to use wwi as the starting point for the "last days".. all the while, one thing that seems to remain intact is the october 2, 1914 date.
oddly, for the watchtower bible & tract publishing cult, this particular date still marks the end of the 2,520-year period (that john aquila brown referred to in his bizarre 1823 book "the even tide")... again, no mention of this in any watchtower publication.
but, for jws, that date still remains the starting point for the period of time often referred to as the "last days" or even "the generation that shall not pass".. because of this, the governing body has been forced to change the definition of "the generation that shall not pass" countless times since the early 1970's.
LOL hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this the end of the world????
Kate xx
i was wondering if anyone know sany statistics of the amount of born ins that actually stay in the orginization.
i think i have read it before on here but i can't really remember what it was.
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ginger, you are spot on there. Now the next generation is doing the same, thankfully my daughter is out, but sadly my son is trapped, he might just start playing by the rules soon, I hope not. Kate xx
hi hello, can anyone help me find a recording of the wtbts being on trial and admitting to their followers believing in a false prophecy.
they said the reason they had their followers believe this was "unity at all costs" i've heard the audio on a few videos online, but have not been able to find the actual source of the clip.
i've seen trnscripts as well (though not official).
LennaB,
Congrats for newly exiting WT. You are doing the right thing by doing as much research as you possibly can. It's different for all of us as to what will be the final piece of information to keep us safe out of the cult. I hope you find what you're looking for.
Kate xx
i would just like to know why people are always treated like you have to be depressed or have some type of serious mental issue if you try to leave?
you cant just leave because its not for you?.
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You can just leave because it's not for you. But many won't accept this because it's a cult and the leaders want to trap members through fear.
Kate xx
when i was a jw i had a lot of silly ideas that seemingly explained things i wondered about.
arguments from ignorance or special pleading i suppose.
actually, my conclusions were daft.. one thing i have wondered about and i don't know if anyone else has, is why man hasn't either rendered the earth to a cinder or why there haven't been more nukes go off against nations.
Good point punky. I just think world leaders with that kind of power know things would end up frazzled. So they don't bother.
Kate xx
i've just been informed by a jw apologist that regarding the 2 witness rule in cases of child abuse, the child himself counts as 1 of the witnesses.
he also stated that if 2 children complain about abuse seperately, the 2 children then count as 2 witnesses.. any thoughts please?.
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Yes that is correct Tim. That is why so many paedophile JWs have been df'd and gone to prison across the globe. The victims have come forward.
The problem lies where an offender only takes one victim. One victim is good enough for a police conviction and prison sentence but the paedophile will not get df'd.
Kate xx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjppkvhy79k#t=82.
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I Can't believe I was so caught up in it all with the go bag and everything. Cults really do have a way of controlling their members.
So glad I am out
Kate xx
hi hello, can anyone help me find a recording of the wtbts being on trial and admitting to their followers believing in a false prophecy.
they said the reason they had their followers believe this was "unity at all costs" i've heard the audio on a few videos online, but have not been able to find the actual source of the clip.
i've seen trnscripts as well (though not official).
Sorry I have never heard of this before. Why do you need it?
Kate xx
the wtbts has an easy time painting x-witnesses as apostates because the direction of information is entirely one way.
and jws rarely get an opportunity to consider both sides of the equation for themselves.
i think that websites like this one are a great tool for those who are already questioning their beliefs or are already entirely out.
Many activists go to DCs and hold banners up. Cedars has some leaflets we can print off if we are feeling in an active mood.
Many find it cathartic to be activist's.
Some just settle into their new lives and help out newly awakened ones.
My story of my exit was stressful and to put it out there for the world to see helped me heal. I got a lot of support at the
time so it was good for me.
Kate xx
from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.
it seems that the wts legal dept.
has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.
Seriously though more JWs lurk and read before they learn TTATT. This kind of activity is not traceable. Hopefully some honesthearted elders will learn TTATT too. We have many elders on this site.
Trying to track down apostates that are still in seems futile. They are out mentally anyway but stuck in for family.....why even bother with them.
Kate xx