I replied that I insist any meeting NOT BE DONE IN SECRECY.-TF1
Excellent game plan, you are in control well done, fine example. Thank for your experience. Kate xx
i attended my last meeting in january 2014, having realised that i'd been lied to for 20+ years (i'm now 43 y/o).
rumours spread of my 'apostasy'.. in may, cobe contacted me inviting me to a private meeting with elders at the kh.
(no mention of the meeting being a jc).
I replied that I insist any meeting NOT BE DONE IN SECRECY.-TF1
Excellent game plan, you are in control well done, fine example. Thank for your experience. Kate xx
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.
Interesting thread. Personally I don't like Dawkins wrting style, but he no where is trying to say that paedophilia is natural, normal or evolutionary. This is another example of media sensationalism, he got over a childhood experience this should really be a positive.
Anyone who moves on with their lives after such an experience should be a positive role model. Shame he is so condesending to the uneducated churchgoer eh?
Kate xx
hey everyone,.
well me, fraz and laika had a little meetup before we went on holiday.....it was great to meet fraz for the first time.
our hols were teriffic and i have enjoyed dating too.
TF1....this is my story
An interview with a former Jehovah's Witness named Sam. After leaving her JW husband due to his domestic violence, the friends began to wonder what happened. She told them, and subsequently the elders disfellowshiped her for "reviling" because she told the truth that he was a violent man that had beaten her children.
The cult mindset was still firmly in place and so she sought reinstatement, attending all the meetings for 16 months. In the meantime she did research online and woke up to TTATT. After writing five letters requesting to be let back in, she met with the elders one last time, and recorded the discussion.
This is a strange and unusual situation for several reasons. In all the years I was an elder I had never heard of anyone being DFed for "reviling". Also the fact that the elders did not remove her ex-husband for beating his children is baffling, and he is still a JW member of the congregation as of this posting.
The recording highlights the pervasive, prying control that the elders exercise over their flock as they follow the Watchtower Organization's arbitrary reinstatement process. This process is not found in the Bible, but only in the directives from the Pharisaical Governing Body, the leaders of the worldwide community of Jehovah's Witnesses. - Raypub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_uWFKDFMdQ
The youtube is 35 mns long...I think it covers all ur questions and more. Keep asking questions TF1. I want my experience to help as many as possible. When you listen to the JC meeting you will know I will never get RI'd, but my friend seems to think I can.
Kate xx
hey everyone,.
well me, fraz and laika had a little meetup before we went on holiday.....it was great to meet fraz for the first time.
our hols were teriffic and i have enjoyed dating too.
Jookbeard, if I get caught I will just say I don't understand why I am not free to marry as a victim of DV. IMO Jehovah wants me to be happy and be loved.
Loubelle, thank you young lady. I will if I am not hurting others.
I am going to the meeting soon and then going on a date. All this makes me happy.
Kate xx
don't know if this has been covered before, but who noticed that at every talk at the district convention (mine anyway), every speaker was introduced by name and then 'brother x has been serving for 25 years as a pioneer" or "he has served on the branch committee" etc etc.. what is it with these credentials?
i've been an elder on and off for most of the last twenty years.
big deal.
"And Brother Numbnuggets, who has been faithfully drinking the Kool-Aid in assorted flavors for over 40 years, will now speak to us on the thrilling Bible subject, " Why 100 Years of Absolutely Nothing Happening as We've Said it Would Is Actually Solid Proof of Divine Blessing! " Brother Numbnuggets, you have our attention .... "-Oub
hahaha!!! Very crass, but true and funny. Kate xx
i just wanted to get a feel for how many here have awakened to ttatt but are still carrying on some jw activities to pacify them and keep the peace.
also trying to hear from those who have left, but whose spouse has stayed in the wt and in the marriage.. for me it comes down to my own mental anguish.
i am mentally tortured by attending the meetings, yet i feel compelled to because my wife would kill me with her personality if i had her drag 2 small girls by herself there.
I am going back for a loved one. Not a spouse. But my JC will never RI me, so I am limiting my attendance to a strict 12 months only, and four letters. Kate xx
don't know if this has been covered before, but who noticed that at every talk at the district convention (mine anyway), every speaker was introduced by name and then 'brother x has been serving for 25 years as a pioneer" or "he has served on the branch committee" etc etc.. what is it with these credentials?
i've been an elder on and off for most of the last twenty years.
big deal.
It's peer pressure to conform to God's "arrangement" and apply Matt 6.33. No appt means poor spiritual health. Kate xx
i really wonder about that.
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just like they say in prayers, that they "love" the governing body---do they really??
Yes indeed, I think he's a bleeping bleep head now. Kate xx
both reopened mind and i are now in our early 60's and it seems our conversations lately have been on putting everything up for sale and buying a rv and travel until we can't anymore.
it has been a dream of ours for along time to see all the site's in the u.s. and canada.
we feel we could make money as we go by selling and teaching using herbs and gardening.
I would go along with the advice not to sell up with no back up plan. You might need a base if your health deteriorates. Travel by all means though go for it. Kate xx
hey everyone,.
well me, fraz and laika had a little meetup before we went on holiday.....it was great to meet fraz for the first time.
our hols were teriffic and i have enjoyed dating too.
Nugget thanks for your post and telephone conversations.........Kate xx
12 months is a long time to waste proving a point. I couldn't sit through 12 minutes. - cofty
I know you care about us cofty and only want what's best. But I can be stubborn and arrogant at times. I will work on that..............that's me being humble hahahaaha!!!!! If I prove my point, time is not wasted. I win then, you see. 12 months is nothing at 40, I am 41 next month, see how quickly that went?
Keep giving me advice though. Sometimes I will take it and sometimes I will be stubborn lol xx Have you ever been stubborn Cofty?
Love you to bits. Mwahh
Kate xx