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  ARC - Case Study 54 - All Exhibits have been released

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all exhibits for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower, have been released by the arc.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

  exhibit list.

  joint statement of o'brien and spinks.

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  Richard Oliver
  I would say personally say that the person chose to disassociate or formally remove themselves as a witness. I would indicate that Paul said not to even eat with a man that was once called your brother. I would also indicate that Jesus stopped his association with Judas when he excused him from the lord's evening meal before his betrayal of the Christ.

  That's, what he really said:

  (1 Corinthians 5:911) 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

  Nothing about a lovely person - leaving the religion. Not one word.

  And nothing about the word "once" (once called your brother. Paul speaks of the present here - not of the past).
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  ARC - Case Study 54 - All Exhibits have been released

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all exhibits for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower, have been released by the arc.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

  exhibit list.

  joint statement of o'brien and spinks.

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  fastJehu

  Richard Oliver
  I would say personally say that the person chose to disassociate or formally remove themselves as a witness. I would indicate that Paul said not to even eat with a man that was once called your brother. I would also indicate that Jesus stopped his association with Judas when he excused him from the lord's evening meal before his betrayal of the Christ.

  I would indicate, that Jesus doesn't excused Judas from the lord's evening meal.

  (Luke 22:19-23) 19 Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “This means my body which is to be given in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 20 Also, the cup in the same way after they had the evening meal, he saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in YOUR behalf. 21 “But, look! the hand of my betrayer is with me at the table. 22 Because the Son of man is going his way according to what is marked out; all the same, woe to that man through whom he is betrayed!” 23 So they started to discuss among themselves the question of which of them would really be the one that was about to do this.

  That's, what the bible says in Luke.

  
  

  That's, what the WT-leaders tell the JWs:

  
  

  *** it-2 p. 130 Judas ***
  Luke’s presentation of this incident evidently is not in strict chronological order...

  If the bible doesn't fit into there doctrine - the bible is the "problem".

  
  

  
  
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  This week's wt paragraph 13 and 15 free will

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does forcing people to shun other people violate free will?

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  13 All of us have freedom of choice regarding associations, styles of dress and grooming, and entertainment. However, our freedom could become “a cover for doing wrong” if we chose to become slaves of our own fleshly desires or if we adopted the disgraceful fads and trends of the world. (Read 1 Peter 2:16.) Instead of using our freedom “as an opportunity to pursue fleshly desires,” we want to be determined to make choices that help us to heed the admonition: “Do all things for God’s glory.”—Gal. 5:13; 1 Cor. 10:31.

  15 One of the limitations on our freedom is that we must respect the right that others have to make their own decisions in life. Why? Since we all have the gift of free will, no two Christians will always make exactly the same decision. This is true even in matters that involve our conduct and worship. Remember the principle found at Galatians 6:5. (Read.) When we recognize that each Christian must “carry his own load,” we will respect the right that others have to use their own gift of free will.

  
  
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  Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?

  i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.

  how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.

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  The 2-witness-rule ist the "truth".
  

  The "truth" is the truth (for a JW).

  As we watched during the last ARC session #54, no JW can accept,
  that the "truth" has to be changed. If the "truth" must be changed, it wasn't the truth.

  It's like talking with JW's about their doctrines - it's like talking to a wall.

  If they change the 2-witness-rule for the ARC - they admit, that the past 65 years the "truth" (about the 2-witness-rule) wasn't the truth.
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  Taped Broadcast of March 10, 2017 ARC hearing - youtube

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  thank you to john redwood for making this available so quickly.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzqvj0z7_ya.

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  wifibandit
  Full #arc54 YouTube Playlist:

  Thanks for the link - but what I can see - it's not the complete (full) playlist.

  I'am missing part 4 at 2:00 PM. Here in europe this part came live at 4:00 AM and I was tired and looked only the first 3 parts live.
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  ARC Live Streaming site ?

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?

  i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.

  also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).

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  For me it works fine - you have the video above the Audio. So stop the Audio and play the video.

  
  
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  ARC Live Streaming site ?

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?

  i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.

  also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).

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  ARC Live Streaming site ?

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?

  i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.

  also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).

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  new strategy to turn in your time in Japan

  by yoko N in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw.org stickers are passed around among publishers.one brother says "hey you can just turn in your time just driving around streets with this sticker on your car.

  " the other side of this car ,(photo) there is a qr code sticker on it.. .

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  sir82
  "Back in the day" we used to tape Watchtowers to the inside of the back window of the car as we traveled to the summer assembly.

  Same in germany. As kids we looked into every car - searching for a WT - driving along the "Autobahn"
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  WT Society Creates the Atmosphere which Spawns Child Abuse in Congregations

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  been thinking about this lately after almost 14 years out of the jw cult myself.

  when you think of the language used within the jehovah's witness organization in such a closed society environment in how the wt society promotes almost absolute " trust " in the elders , the governing body, and trust even in the " friends " in the congregation themselves- is it any wonder that unscrupulous child molesters can enter any congregation pretending to be " spiritual " and take advantage of unsuspecting children or the parents ?

  think about it : an individual is judged as a " spiritual " person within the jw organization based on what wt functions or duties they are good at performing.

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  As a "born in" the theocratic order is another explanantion for me.

  As a Child I had to do, whatever my dad said. I could never question him.

  Theocratic order means:

  - I had to do, what daddy said -

  - daddy had to do, what the elders or the CO said -

  - CO, Branch, GB had to do, what Christ/Jehova said -

  and no one in this order was allowed to question anything.

  A difficult climate as child/parents to fight against abuse.