Posts by fastJehu

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Why do JW's never pray for the Spirit of Jesus?

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

i am new on this forum.

i have been associating with the jw's for three years, and was about to be baptised soon (next month).

however, i discovered on time that it is not right to do.

fastJehu

Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu
I am an unbaptised publisher. Can they still decide to officially shun me?

Yes - they can and they will do it.

They will annouce at the meedweek-meeting:

Person xy is no longer an unbaptised publisher.

This announcment indicates to all JWs in the hall, that "something" is wrong with you.

BUT: JWs can count there hours "preaching" to you. So it may be, that some JWs will still assosiate with you and write down the hours on there monthly timeslip. The love of the JW is always conditional - it depends on your beliefs (that you do not contradict the JW doctrines).

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If anybody tells you that the end is so close

by pepperheart in

ask them why the gb has spent millions of people hours buiding the new bethels in new york and london rather than them working door to door or on the trolleys.

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blondie
I don't have access to my cd right now, but in the past the WTS has said that these buildings will survive into the new system to be the foundation of the new government on earth, WTS governing.

*** jv chap. 20 p. 339 Building Together on a Global Scale ***

Building work is being done by Jehovah’s Witnesses because of needs that exist now in connection with preaching the good news. With the help of Jehovah’s spirit, they want to give the greatest witness possible during the time that remains before Armageddon. They are convinced that God’s new world is very close at hand, and they have faith that they will survive as an organized people into that new world, under the rule of God’s Messianic Kingdom. It is also their hope that perhaps many of the fine facilities that they have built and dedicated to Jehovah will continue to be used after Armageddon as centers from which knowledge of the only true God can be diffused until it truly fills the earth.—Isa. 11:9.

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If anybody tells you that the end is so close

by pepperheart in

ask them why the gb has spent millions of people hours buiding the new bethels in new york and london rather than them working door to door or on the trolleys.

fastJehu

pepperheart
Ask them why the GB has spent millions of people hours buiding the new bethels in new york and london rather than them working door to door or on the trolleys

When they tell me how soon the end ist, my answer is: "I will come back soon".

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France: Where all donations are going? Germany?

by sp74bb in

source: http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/publications/assoccpt/pdf/2015/3108/398996694_31082015.pdf.

"nothing is hidden.

jehovah's eyes sees everything.

fastJehu

Brokeback Watchtower
Isn't Germany printing literature for France or do they print their own? would be the next question.

UK is now (since some month) printing for france, also for germany.

https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_magazines/2a/w_F_201704.pdf

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Watchtower April, 2017 Overview

by Listener in

i'll start with the first study article.. this study article deals with vows made to jehovah.

three main vows are discussed.. 1) your dedication to jehovah.

we are told that it is not possible to claim that our baptism was not valid .

fastJehu

Bonnie_Clyde
Just thought I would revive an old thread about the marriage vows from 50+ years ago.

Thanks for this thread. Interesting "old stuff" I never heard about. Thanks.

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Watchtower April, 2017 Overview

by Listener in

i'll start with the first study article.. this study article deals with vows made to jehovah.

three main vows are discussed.. 1) your dedication to jehovah.

we are told that it is not possible to claim that our baptism was not valid .

fastJehu

Before God and eyewitnesses, the bride and groom exchange their marriage vows. They usually promise that they will love, cherish, and respect each other and that they will do so “for aslong as [they] both shall live together on earth according to God’s marital arrangement.”

With this sentence in §14 they cleverly prepare the reader when the separation from a partner who leaves the "truth" is allowed.

"usually" - I never heard marriage vows like this.

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God’teachings or men’s personal opinions and interpretations ?

by MacHislopp in

before addressing the topic, i would like you to keep in mind the following statement coming from the society’s governing body:

· 'the golden age' january 18th, 1933 page 252.

· "if the message the jehovah's witnesses are bringing to the people is true, then it is of greatest importance to mankind.

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DATA-DOG
I believe there is a newer quote from the fabulous GB, stating that "anointed ones" don't necessarily have more "years" or "knowledge" than even non-anointed...

Here it is:

*** w16 January pp. 23-24 par. 6 “We Want to Go With You” ***

Modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope. They do not claim to have special knowledge or revelations; neither do they try to prove that they are in some way superior. They would also never suggest to others that these too have been anointed and should start partaking; rather, they would humbly acknowledge that it is Jehovah who does the calling of anointed ones.

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WTBTS' corrupt translation - to elevate elders!

by The Searcher in

the wt march 2017, p.11, par.

13 quotes ephesians 4:8 as saying, "the bible refers to them as 'gifts in men.

however, the org's own kingdom interlinear translation (and every other bible translation) gives a truthful translation of the verse: .

fastJehu

More and more about elders. Have a look - what they print about the cover image.

I think (don't know exactly), this is the first time - they write the status of the JW into the text for the cover image.

FOG: Your are only a good elder, if you go to fieldservice after the meeting - and be always a good example for the other JWs (including your wife).

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So the governing body is NOT inspired...are they still "spirit directed"?

by NikL in

okay there has been lots of buzz about the feb 2017 wt where they say the governing body is not inspired nor infallible.

yet, they are still using the baptism questions.

the second one being... "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directedorganization?".

fastJehu

*** w10 9/15 p. 13 pars. 8-9 Unity Identifies True Worship ***

Similarly today, a Governing Body composed of spirit-anointed Christians contributes to the unity of the worldwide congregation. The Governing Body publishes spiritually encouraging literature in many languages. This spiritual food is based on God’s Word. Thus, what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah.—Isa. 54:13.

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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy in

that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

fastJehu

https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_magazines/25/w_E_201702.pdf

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