for those of you who signed up for the secret santa 2009 list here is where you give your secret santa an idea of things you might like.
it's hard enough to give gifts to people you know nevermind people you have never met.. so bearing in mind the $15 limit give us an idea what your favorite interests, colors are, or what things you might like.. in the past people have suggested something for their new christmas tree, a book, a cd of their favorite music, something from where their secret santa lives (something with the city's or country's name on it or an widely known item.. once people get their name they will be able to check back here to get an idea of what your interest is before they go shopping.. if you say "anything" or don't post then expect a surprise..
I'd like a gift to a charity in my name, too. Second Harvest, or Avalon Housing in Ann arbor MI. The latter made my life so much easier when newly out of the org and an abusive marriage. I know Avalon does good work.
If you prefer to send things, I like UNscented candles, jams, dark chocolate, a christmas ornament or cd or a surprise.
NOTE to Nos; no WT lit if you get my name, thank you very much!
my understanding is that if a child needs a blood transfusion and the parent refuses, the child becomes a ward of the state.
however, once the child gets the transfusion, do the parents just get the kid back?
does dss get involved?
I doubt the kids are physically taken away. The order for transfusion would be carried out despite the parent's objections. It happens here in the states regularly. I suppose if the court had reason to believe that the parents would run away with the child it would be a different matter. I've known of two cases personally, one with a five year-old where the room was monitored, and the other where it was a young teen and the transfusions were administered; I think the parents acknowledged the courts decision.
...leave a sect and your marriage at the same time.... i lost 5 kilos in a month.
tee hee.
I agree! Lost lots of weight when the "weight" of the cult and opressive mate were gone.
Thank you Lady Lee, I know things come up.
Blondie, I got your pm but can't figure out how to reply! My account has been a bit strange the last day or two.
Please add me though I did not receive my exchange gift last year. I hope everything is OK with the person who had my name.
how are things in north michigan?
i hear that they are very bad for employment and business.
i used to know a couple of people who were in the design of homes, i think their business was lake st. design.
I'm from the lower part of the state. I don't recognize the name you posted. The entire state is in a bad economic situation like many parts of the country.
What congregation were you in?
... and nothing but the truth, please help me prozak..... i'm sure some have noticed how 'cranky' and 'snappy' i have been posting the last couple of days.... i am sorry..... life on my peaceful farm has gone to hell the last week with the noise of constant loud bangs from 'scareguns' that have been placed around our property to keep the ducks off the rice crops..... i have had very little sleep as the noise echos inside my old brick house 24hrs a day!......
so now that i have had my rant, i ask the question.... (in the family guy style).
what grinds your gears????????.
Bullies in the workplace (or anywhere!). They can make your life absolute misery.
the recent resurrected topic on franz' books got me curious.. how much did his writing contribute to your decision to leave?.
for myself, it was another brick in the wall but not more important than any other.
i was a little different than most in that i regularly read anti-witness stuff from the very beginning and never stopped.
I'd already left when I read the books; couldn't have done the other way around. Before reading CoC I still had a tiny thought tucked away that "they" might be right. Franz's books resolved that and I was quite devistated at the actions of an organization I would have died for a few years earlier.
obviously a book written for kids by old dumb morons at bethel the book starts with abels murder {with pictures for the kids} people begging to get into the ark before drowning to death...a good lesson for kiddies!
a women putting a tent peg thru someones temple {with pictures} moses killing an egyptian.
etc a horrified atheist lady returned the books my mother gave as "gifts" {count 2 placements} after seeing the horrific topics, she decided it was "not apropriate for her kids.".
I had a neighbor give the copy back that we'd given to her daughter. My daughter was same age and they played together. I have to say that I saw her point, even at the time! I didn't realize at the time that I was on my way out.
just asked a loyal dub i know why has the org now given out a song book, with so many songs taken out?
she looked at her convention notes and replied that the soceity said that some of the songs in the old song book were too difficult for new people to learn to sing.. and this was said with all seriousness... she totaly brought it!.
"Does anyone remember the old, old, old song books with Christendom song melodies with JW lyrics?"
I do!
