EverApostate

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  Do Jehovah`s Witnesses lie to receive Government benefits ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah`s witnesses do not respect the ,governments of any nation from my experience with "witnesses" over 33 years as a card carrying member.

  the governments are to be exploited taking advantage of all the provisions govt`s, hand out to their citizens.after all the govts, are under the control of satan the devil ,he is the ruler of this world and is at enmity with god.. so they feel justified in practicing deception as they the gov`ts.

  being opposer`s of truth have no right to know the real truth.. i personally knew of pioneers who had no intention of finding work but were happy to take unemployment benefits from the govt.

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  EverApostate

  I too know a few brothers and sisters who were deliberatley "Pioneeering" , taking Unemployement benefits as well Disablity benefits, even though they were more healthier than me
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  Dec 2018 Watchtower Third Heaven & Paradise

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a qfr in the watchtower asks ".

  n what sense was the apostle paul “caught away to the third heaven” and “into paradise”?​—2 cor.

  they've been flip flopping regarding this, stating that it is paul talking about himself to paul talking about the congregation and back again to paul talking about himself.it appears that three years ago david splane gave a talk during the convention explaining their latest ideas and it has taken all this time for it to get into print.

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  I firmly believe that Paul was a self-deluded guy with a serious mental illness. That explains all the heavens.
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  Do you think Ruthaford is buried at Beth Sharim?

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no one really knows where ruthaford is buried.

  there is some word of mouth evidence that he is buried under the garage of beth sarim.

  i think he is under the garage.

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  Holy GB has a burial cemetery, especially for them? That’s News for me.

  That's an anointed holy pilgrim site I should visit for sure, to be blessed.

  But why can’t they be cremated - which is less expensive - as they would be resurrected anyway to join the 144K "Never defiled by women" crowd.
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  JWs and 9-11. What was your reaction when it happened?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was shocking.. all these years later, i found myself crying for the dead for the first time..

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  EverApostate

  Arrived to my new Office 8AM. I had joined there a week before and was still staying in a hotel in Pennsylvania.

  9:00 AM a lot of commotion in office, with all my peers watching the tv.

  9:30 AM. All Employees told to leave.

  When I came out giant Helicopters were flying, possibly towards New york or Washington. Scary to watch.

  Came to my hotel and saw the twin towers attacked and colllapsing, on TV, along with the attack on the Pentagon.

  Kneeled down and prayed to Jehovah. Felt that Armeggadon was imminent.

  After that, I was waiting for the WT to print magazines on 9/11 , which eventually came out as Awakes.

  A lot of rumours after that. THat the WT is getting ready for an imminent Armeggadon, work is speeding up and all those cult nonsense.
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  Time matters

  by I Faded Twice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few years back i was in a meeting between fades and it was the co visit.

  he said something i thought was crazy and a lot of jws buy into this mentality.

  i don't remember the talk but he asked this question.. what if this isn't the truth?

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  EverApostate

  Thats a good math, wasting our lives for a cult.

  Here is a shortened version of mine.

  Even if this isn’t the truth isn’t your Life clean and peaceful. We Don’t lose anything.

  I was provided with the same argument from an Over zealous brother, when I was about to leave the cult

  My reasoning for this is, a normal person works for 8 hours, sleeps for 8 hours and the rest 8 hours is spent according to his will and pleasures. He can pursue a healthy passion or hobby, or spend time with his loved ones, or just relax during this 8 hour /day

  But Jws are brain washed to work for the WT,for the last 8 hour, along with contributing their hard earned money.

  1/3rd of their life wasted for just fictious stories and needless rules. Is this life worth, where there is only one life and in a short while we become non-existent…….. for eternity ?
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  JWFacts is incorrect about "Holy Spirit". Do YOU know about the 40 or so years the WT taught there was NO holy spirit?

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i did my own extensive research as i was getting out, and by exploring actual changes and mentions of core doctrine, i learned how it came about that the gb teach that only they know the truth and only they get holy spirit.

  i was checking if jwfacts had it, and although they mention many older articles, it seems they didn't realize they taught there was no holy spirit.

  this was a real big eye opener for me, so thought i'd share it, and curious if any of you knew about this yourselves????.

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  EverApostate

  Because when Jesus was with his apostles they didn't have it, but when Jesus left, he told them he would send the teacher, the holy spirit. So since Jesus is back, there is no holy spirit anymore

  Thats a Valid point

  However the whole argument of this is Just hypothetical, similar to :

  Santa clause brings Christmas cheer in the month of December. After Christmas, Santa leaves his spirit for the people, so that they can cheer up, all until next december.
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  What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.

  i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.

  however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?

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  During 2002, the Silent Lambs Organization took up the Issue of child abuse and this was very much publicized on the media.

  At that time during the TMS meeting, we were advised not to read any apostate material or visit any apostate sites. I was new to the internet at that time and really didn’t know how to search for apostate sites. Hence I wondered “what the heck do those apostate sites mean”?

  During 2008 a JW friend of mine raised serious doubts about the 607 BCE. I searched for that in Youtube and had an apostate give an elaborate explanation about how WT had twisted that.

  By then, google was much used to me and immediately I searched for “Jehovahs Witnesses”. A bunch of apostate sites came up. However the first few ones were Jwfacts.com and http://ajwrb.org.

  Jwfacts.com was the site that exposed the cult wholly and its my Saviour too. Otherwise I would still be wasting my life for the cult.

  
  
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  Influence of Babylon the Great is only increasing

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jw teaching, babylon the great is the name for all other religions except themselves and predicted its influence over governments would wane in the last days.

  yet we find just opposite happening!.

  we saw russian government acting against jws, we saw president trump’s swearing in ceremony where church official had central stage ….etc.. here is another sample!

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  EverApostate

  Very true, at least in India

  Every year, the Pilgrims to the Hindu temples grow exponentially. The same is true with the Pentecostal and protestant churches. Pentecostal pastors get rich very soon, within a few years after starting a local group.

  While i was a JW, I used to wonder how this can be.
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  When the WT study goes beyond what is written in the Bible.

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.

  just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..

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  EverApostate

  The title of this thread as well as many people commenting here are concerned that WT is going beyond what is written in the Bible.

  Do they still beleive that the Bible is the (only) word of a (True) god, written down for man’s betterment and that WT is going beyond what is written ?
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  When the WT study goes beyond what is written in the Bible.

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.

  just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..

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  EverApostate

  If Holy Mary is part of 144K, then why she didnt attend the Lord's evening meal.

  Am I missing anything here ? Please someone explain. My life is at stake.