Influence of Babylon the Great is only increasing

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  • Ireneus

    According to JW teaching, Babylon the Great is the name for all other religions except themselves and predicted its influence over Governments would wane in the Last Days. Yet we find just opposite happening!

    We saw Russian Government acting against JWs, we saw President Trump’s swearing in ceremony where church official had central stage ….etc.

    Here is another sample! In a place where Federal Government is Hindu-friendly and State Government is Marxist, nuns are forced to go on strike because their complaints with Police yield no results even when the nun is raped by the Bishop 13 times all because Church officials put great pressure on Government not to pursue the case vigorously.

    Ironically, it happens in a State where Police often acts in haste because of which Policemen even receive death sentence from the Judicial Establishment.

  • Bungi Bill
    Bungi Bill

    A "gem" of wisdom I remember from the mid-1970s was their quoting of a certain verse in Revelation about the "River Euphrates running dry". Crazy Fred maintained that this scripture was even then being fulfilled - with the membership of "Babylon the Great" steadily declining.

    At the time of that brilliant observation, the Catholic church had a total membership of about 750 million. Today, that number has almost doubled to 1.285 billion. The desert sands of the Middle East must be waterlogged or something - not doing a very good job of running the river dry!

  • Ireneus

    Bungi Bill,

    Yes,very true. Their 100 years of work has produced only a few thousand JWs in India with a population of over 1.3 billion--no drying at all. And even their India Branch office is placed for sale.

  • smiddy3

    Remember "Babylon The Great Has Fallen Gods Kingdom Rules " book from the 70`s ? I think they said then that it first fell in 1919 and was slowly going into oblivion .Wishful thinking on their part that ain`t gonna happen.

  • days of future passed
    days of future passed

    I've heard a few talks about how Babylon the Great has Fallen from years ago.

    But apparently, she's gotten up again and ran off in her high heels.

  • Vidiot
    Ireneus - "Influence of Babylon the Great is increasing..."


    ...JW Broadcasting, real estate investments, ATMs at assemblies...

    ...they'd know.


  • SonoftheTrinity

    Babylon the Great is following the unlucky number of a 66 book Bible without really knowing who Athanasius and Ireneus were.

  • Finkelstein

    The illogical stupidity of what represents Babylon The Great is a on going conundrum for the WTS.

    Recent stuff right of JWorg confirms that .....

    Oh it must be the United Nations ........really

    Identifying “Babylon the Great”

    THE book of Revelation contains expressions that are not to be understood literally. (Revelation 1:1) For example, it mentions a woman with the name “Babylon the Great” written on her forehead. This woman is said to be sitting on “crowds and nations.” (Revelation 17:1, 5, 15) Since no literal woman could do this, Babylon the Great must be symbolic. So, what does this symbolic prostitute represent?

    At Revelation 17:18, the same figurative woman is described as “the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.” The term “city” indicates an organized group of people. Since this “great city” has control over “the kings of the earth,” the woman named Babylon the Great must be an influential organization that is international in scope. It can rightly be called a world empire. What kind of empire? A religious one. Notice how some related passages in the book of Revelation lead us to this conclusion.

    An empire can be political, commercial, or religious. The woman named Babylon the Great is not a political empire because God’s Word states that “the kings of the earth,” or the political elements of this world, “committed sexual immorality” with her. She has practiced such immorality by forming alliances with the rulers of this earth and has done whatever is necessary in order to gain power and influence over them. That is why she is called “the great prostitute.”​—Revelation 17:1, 2; James 4:4.

    Babylon the Great cannot be a commercial empire because “the merchants of the earth,” representing the commercial elements, will be mourning her at the time of her destruction. In fact, both kings and merchants are described as looking at Babylon the Great from “a distance.” (Revelation 18:3, 9, 10, 15-17) Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that Babylon the Great is, not a political or a commercial empire, but a religious one.

    The religious identity of Babylon the Great is further confirmed by the statement that she misleads all the nations by means of her “spiritistic practices.” (Revelation 18:23) Since all forms of spiritism are religious and demon-inspired, it is not surprising that the Bible calls Babylon the Great “a dwelling place of demons.” (Revelation 18:2; Deuteronomy 18:10-12) This empire is also described as being actively opposed to true religion, persecuting “prophets” and “holy ones.” (Revelation 18:24) In fact, Babylon the Great has such deep hatred for true religion that she violently persecutes and even murders “the witnesses of Jesus.” (Revelation 17:6) Hence, this woman named Babylon the Great clearly represents the world empire of false religion, which includes all religions that stand in opposition to Jehovah God.

  • Finkelstein

    Hence, this woman named Babylon the Great clearly represents the world

    empire of false religion, which includes all religions that stand in opposition to Jehovah God.

    So you see are organization is the only true chosen organization identifying itself as Christian and all others are false.

    We have Jehovah's blessing even though we are false Prophets money making charlatans.

  • steve2

    “Babylon the Great” has no more declined since 1919 than JWs have gained divine approval in that year.

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