EverApostate

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  The people who decided the Scriptures

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  many people over many centuries have been involved in deciding which documents were scripture.

  there has never been unanimous agreement, including today.

  only the church of rome took a vote on the canon.

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  EverApostate

  God interferes with the people in middle east (Why always Middle east. What’s so special there ?)

  An then God Inspires his people - most of them anonymous- to write a collection of books, in very crude parchments and none of the originals exist today.

  Centuries later the Roman aristocrats decide on which books to include and what to exclude, in what we call the Bible today.

  For another 1500 years the Bible was circulated through handwritten copies, until the printing press came.

  Then the Bible was further diversified into various versions, each version being claimed as the accurate ones, by their adherents.

  And today, people have a responsibility of identifying the very true version and follow that to attain eternal life.

  I don’t think the Biblical God is doing a good job here.
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  The Football Game Illustration.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  run!!!

  run!!!

  just run .

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  EverApostate

  JW kids are dragged into FS and meetings during the weekend and flatly deprived of the Joyful games they would be playing otherwise

  And these thugs illustrate their corporate goals with a Football game.
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  New abbreviation POMOSI

  by NeedToKnow in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was thinking that i’m not exactly pomo but more pomosi - physically out mentally out spiritually in.. anyone who is familiar with the life of raymond franz may understand what i mean.

  so i haven’t been to meetings in a while and i’m so over the whole mind control thing but i do love jehovah and believe in his purpose for us.

  the org doesn’t go about it properly imo so i have been doing my own reading and understanding.

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  EverApostate

  As far as my understanding, being spiritual is very much associated with beliefs about the non-existing things. In plain terms "Superstitious"
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  What JW habits do you still have?

  by Exelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since leaving the jw's after over 4 decades, i can see exactly what it is and hate everything it stands for.

  however, there are still some jw habits and traits that i can't get rid of:.

  1. i can't swear in general conversation (i'd have to be really angry).

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  EverApostate

  I have a JW habit I forgot to tell in my previous comment.

  JWs are trained to provide a witness at every opportunity.

  Yes, I continue that and use every opportunity to sow seeds of doubts in JWs now.
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  What JW habits do you still have?

  by Exelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since leaving the jw's after over 4 decades, i can see exactly what it is and hate everything it stands for.

  however, there are still some jw habits and traits that i can't get rid of:.

  1. i can't swear in general conversation (i'd have to be really angry).

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  EverApostate

  I pretty much trained myself to do anti-JW things after I left. I do everything thats in your list. Never got a blood transfusion, as it was never needed so far.

  I think the reason for me getting over this is, I educated myself more about Evolution, religions and God and came to an absolute certainty that all religions are frauds and Evolution is fact.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses worship a pagan god derived from the ancient Canaanite civilization

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  historians of ancient history along with bible scholars have found from where the ancient hebrews acquired their god yhwh .. el was the all powerful god of the canaanites which the hebrews converted mostly to a monotheist style of worship for themselves.. apparently their were ancient civilizations that predated the canaanites as well .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnpaoappiqm.

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  If there is an Almighty god, why can’t he write his name in the space out there, by any means and irrefutably prove that he exists and has a name too.

  Why all this commotion
  

  Also, I see people here mentioning about "False Gods", as if a true god has been undeniably proven to Exist.
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  1969 Awake on Education - A Sore Spot for Me

  by NotBlind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my father would have started college 49 years ago this week.

  about three months earlier, the week he graduated high school, the awake!

  magazine came out with some very clear direction to teenagers.

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  EverApostate

  Sorry to hear all those affected by the cult.

  Luckily I was baby during 1969, raised by protestant parents who gave me the best childhood ever.

  When I was in the cult, an elder came and counseled me that I am too materialistic and should think of quitting my fair paying job to go for a menial one, as I could do more in the FS non sense.

  Thank myself, I never listened to him as I always had the doubt that this is all a scam.
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  Some thoughts on the message of doom

  by JeffT in

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  2. friends

  one of the recent threads on the talk about the hailstone message got me to thinking.

  the problem with putting out a message like that is what to do when nothing happens.

  i have to think that somebody will be asking that question.

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  They always have this magical "Invisible" Keyword

  When nothing happened in 1914, they said Jesus Started to rule invisibly.

  The angels are guiding the preaching of the good news invisibly.

  The mighty heavens, the Legion of angels, Jehovah, Jesus and Satan are all damn real but invisible.

  Likewise the hailstones are being pelted invisibly.
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  The Hailstone Message :2018 Assembly

  by jwdoctrine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following is the talk of the assembly followed by my 15 minutes commentary.i have included part of my notes below which i used for the commentary .

  what is the hailstone message?.

  is it literal or symbolic?.

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  Are you telling me you don't think the account where a doney talks to a man is real?"

  That one annointed donkey should have been inspired and filled with holy spirit.
  
  
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  Who was the devil that tested Jesus in the Wilderness?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i started investigating "the temptations" at matthew chapter 4, i had no idea that i would develop the ideas contained in my study paper.

  so it cannot honestly be said that i set out to prove the conclusions i arrived at.. it is available at:.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/the_devil_who_tested_jesus.pdf .

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  EverApostate

  This is how religious people retrofit their religious events with the modern understanding of things

  Jesus = Real

  Satan = Not real. Just a Temptation

  Mountain = Not real. A metaphor.

  Moral of the story. Resist temptations like Jesus. Don’t take the events literally.

  This is how religions survive, even in Scientific era