EverApostate

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  The Latest Thing Waking People Up...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i woke up and left i've been contacted by others i knew from my youth who've also left the cult.

  also people around the world on facebook adding me out of the blue because we have mutual friends and they occasionally ask me stuff or share their story.. what i've noticed in the vast majority of cases, is that people are waking up not because of the arc or doctrine but apathy.

  active jws are becoming less and less interested, less and less bothered.

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  Those who dare to do a little critical thinking would be fed up and leave.

  But the majority of Jws are too afraid to think or they wouldnt leave due to famiy reasons.

  And I estimate this religion would survive for a while
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  The Repression and Expression of Anger Among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by john.prestor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  something which i always found surprising when i attended the kingdom halls i studied was how angry, even vicious, many jehovah's witnesses could become when a watchtower study featured some persons and/or institutions the organization disapproved of, say, higher education and educators, christendom and its clergy, apostates, etc.

  many seemed to sadistically enjoy denigrating these persons or institutions when the watchtower study conductor called on them and they were handed a microphone.

  i wondered for a long time where this anger came from, and i've developed a hypothesis for explaining this.. according to a book i'm reading by alice miller called "for your own good: hidden cruelty in child-rearing and the roots of violence," children who are strictly controlled and abused (whether emotionally or physically) typically go on to unleash the anger they inevitably felt at their parents, but were never allowed to express, at their children or those around them.

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  When I was in, I was terrible angry over Chrsitendom for taking off Gods Name from the Bible. Was angry over people who celebrate Birthdays and Christmas. Such a Dumber.

  Its all a result of the hate Propaganda by WT, that starts right from their Bible Study
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  EverApostate

  @venus,

  It's the fear of death and insecurity of life that makes people believe Bizarre religious concepts
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  The Christian story of God the Father putting his son to death, or employing people to do it (for that is the plain language of the story) cannot be told by a parent to a child; and to tell him that it was done to make mankind happier and better is making the story still worse- as if mankind could be improved by the example of murder; and to tell him that all this is a mystery is only making an excuse for the incredibility of it

  -- Thomas paine
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  Without god what is the basis of morality?

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm sure most here who've questioned or left behind their belief in god have encountered this question - without god, what basis can there be for morality?

  my exwife, when i admitted that i was an atheist, once asked me "if you don't believe in god, what's to stop you from going out and raping and murdering?

  " previously, whenever i got this objection, i would tend to turn it around on the other person with a response along the lines of "if fear of god is the only thing that stops you from murdering, that makes me rather nervous to be around you.

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  smiddy3

  Well said.
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  Without god what is the basis of morality?

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm sure most here who've questioned or left behind their belief in god have encountered this question - without god, what basis can there be for morality?

  my exwife, when i admitted that i was an atheist, once asked me "if you don't believe in god, what's to stop you from going out and raping and murdering?

  " previously, whenever i got this objection, i would tend to turn it around on the other person with a response along the lines of "if fear of god is the only thing that stops you from murdering, that makes me rather nervous to be around you.

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  If any Christian comes and preaches me about Gods Morality I would ask him /her about the morality of these events

  God Subjecting Adam and eve and all their generations to undue sufferings, all because eve disobeyed and ate a fruit.

  It’s ok to own slaves and beat them

  A man stoned to death because he picked up sticks on the Sabbath

  Uzziah killed instantly because with all good intent he prevented the ark from falling

  God killing the First Born of Egypt because Pharaoh disobeyed him

  Lot and His Daughters incestuous Story, yet Lot is called a Righteous person

  Jah kills 70K People because David took a census

  Daughter In law seduces her Father in law.

  The murder Pillage by Joshua and Moses, ordered by the Morale god.

  God Kills Job’s children and servants because of a bet with the Devil.

  Jah is satisfied with the torture and Killing of his own son.
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  A Gem From The May Study WT "Know Your Enemy"

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in fact, only three books of the hebrew scriptures, 1 chronicles, job, and zechariah, mention satan, which means “resister.” why was little said about our enemy prior to the arrival of the messiah?.

  3 apparently, jehovah did not want to give satan undue prominence by devoting large portions of the hebrew scriptures to discussing him and his activity.

  jehovah’s primary purpose for inspiring that section of the scriptures was to identify the messiah and lead god’s people to him.. .

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  Apparently, Jehovah did not want to give Satan undue prominence

  But is still allowing Satan to be an Immensley powerful and invisible force that can influence and harm mankind and who can bring untold miseries and so on...

  Ok, I understand God's grand divine plan now.

  
  
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  Have you ever considered how bizarre the idea of "War in Heaven" really is?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.

  easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.

  why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.

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  Satan and his demons were cast out of heaven into earth. What a loving Arrangement.

  AS if the earth has less of Problems. THis is just like a loving dad sending serial killers to his childrens home.
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  Anybody here still believe in the bible?

  by Mel Morris in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.

  i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.

  i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.

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  AS you had requested, this site has a lot of good insights into the bible.
  

  http://www.evilbible.com/
  
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  Have you ever considered how bizarre the idea of "War in Heaven" really is?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.

  easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.

  why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.

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  @venus

  You have good points