i was talking to someone a few years ago and he said in his congregation they have a rail of white shirts prepared in the cloakroom for if a speaker doesn't have a white shirt on.
it was a rule in their hall that all brothers in the platform must wear white shirts when going talks and if the speaker won't comply when asked to change into the shirt they provide an elder in the congregation will do the talk instead.
i have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without gb input.
All religious texts contain man made rules(pretending that god instructed them) and in addition to that every religion/sect create their own subset of rules.
Just saying because I feel the title of this thread assumes that there are God made rules and men create additional rules.
just wondering if this is a common thing for you guys and girls?
when i left the jws it was hard to make a connection with people, much of the time i felt that whatever they wanted to talk about just didn't seem relevant/deep/meaningful.
i find myself filtering my mind to get to a level with others (small talk mostly).
I was a Devout JW and now an atheist. There is no meaning in life as there is no meaning for this Universe, as far as I know, until now.
There are no gods, heaven, hell, angels, afterlife, reincarnation or anything of that sort. Its all mankind's Fantasies.
We can make our lives meaningful though, by working for the betterment of mankind and then peacefully perish into a "point of no return" oblivion.
With all sincerity, I can say that I am more happy now than when being a religious person.
i think the overwhelming problem with trying to wake up friends and family is they have nowhere else to go.
i mean these people all their friends are jws a lot of them their family is jws.
if they wake up or agree with you in anyway they know instantly that they loose all this, many will even loose jobs.
Where else would you go ? Is a question asked by Dubs to those who rebel or fade
Why should I go elsewhere ? Abandon all religions and Just live my life satisfactorily after having realized this is the only one
yesterday i went to a shopping center.
i saw a dub who was once a very friendly person.
he was about 10 metres from me when i noticed him.
When I was in New Jersey, I had a bunch of Indian JWs who were almost like family to us. When I started to know ttatt, I stopped going to meetings and asked my fellow believers all I came to know.
One final day, these so called friends of mine, invited me to a dinner party where some 20 Indian JWs were gathereed
After the dinner, 2 elders took me to the basement and told me straight at the face, that they would not associate with me hereafter and they cannot dine in the table of demons. They told me to leave.
Was very heartbreaking and I walked out weeping along with my still in JW wife. A year later, I dissociated myself to prove that I have the guts to do so and to tell them that I am not anymore afraid of the Cult.
i'm so upset and angry at the same time.
i move in less than 2 weeks and was supposed to be getting help off "brothers" to move and one of them was driving the van and now the elders have had a meeting and told the brothers they can't help coz i'm separated from my (abusive) jw husband and with moving it puts the chances of reconciliation (of which there was zero chance) even further away.
where are these stupid rules that they come up with.
JWs are trained to Switch on / Off the Love(Cant call this love in the first place), based on your dedication to the WT
You are faithful to the WT: Switch the LOVE ON
You rebel : Switch the LOVE OFF:
My Experience.
it is my understanding that jws believe that the crucifixion occurred on friday.
however, luke 24:21 would seem to indicate that it couldn't have occurred any later than thursday.
how do you explain the seeming discrepancy?
Even if Jesus was real and he was crucified on a Friday, so what ? Has it proved any thing beneficial to mankind. NOPE.
are there any folks here who believe that armageddon, the "second coming of christ.
" the great tribulation and resurrection are past events rather than future?.
Armageddon - Fear mongering word coined by a Psychopath.
"second coming of Christ - Even the first coming is still highly Suspicious.
great tribulation - Happened often in mankind's History but nothing to do with any Gods.
Resurrection - Not possible until now, unless man finds a way through medical science. All religious Books resurrections are Bogus
these bible stories are too silly to be true.
take off your rose colored glasses and you will begin to see some great imagination, exaggeration and great story telling!.
telling !.
For Rattigan350 - I meant that the stars were created after the earth, as the Bible says
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth
16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars
these bible stories are too silly to be true.
take off your rose colored glasses and you will begin to see some great imagination, exaggeration and great story telling!.
telling !.
When ever I feel a little depressed I read all these Bible stuff. Best humor that would cheer you up, guaranteed
Earth created first and then the stars and the heavens
Talking snake and Donkey
Jacobs Sheep cloning.
Samson and those blazing poor foxes.
Solomon's 600 wives and 300 Concubines. And he is supposed to be the Wisest man on earth. Bibles definition for wise may be.
Mary Impregnated by Holy Spirit. I underestimated Holy spirits dynamism.
Baby Jesus has to escape to Egypt. What the heck ?? Jah didn't provide angelic protection ?
Resurrected Zombies, after Jesus Death.
I will release the second part some time later.
i left the jw organization last year during summer.
maybe some of you can relate.
who of you are agnostic or an atheist?
Grateful to Watchtower for turning me into an apostate and the Bible for making me an Atheist.
As many have mentioned here, after becoming an atheist, I respect other people's beliefs and get along unless any one tries to drag me into their religion.
