Posts by TTATTelder

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Bizarre comment about jw.org at SAD

by sir82 in

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recently attended a sad.. bethel speaker was gushing about the wt's embrace of new technology, in the part of his talk warning about "apostate" web sites.. a loose summary of his comments:.

"and the brothers at headquarters have made it very safe for you to go to our website.

in fact, the brothers talked to the folks at google, and they made a special arrangement so that when you type in 'j w period' into the google search engine, it automatically shows you the jw.org website.

TTATTelder

Dangerous... Dangerous game they are playing...They are swimmimg in shark-infested waters on the internet.

The GB is encouraging their members to use the internet more and more. This of course to save money on printing and use the net as a marketing medium. But every time their little guppies go online - there lies the slim chance that they stumble onto an apostate shark that will devour them in a moment's notice!

They will probably continue to expand the app's capabilities to avoid people going on the wild worldly internet.

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Bizarre comment about jw.org at SAD

by sir82 in

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friends

recently attended a sad.. bethel speaker was gushing about the wt's embrace of new technology, in the part of his talk warning about "apostate" web sites.. a loose summary of his comments:.

"and the brothers at headquarters have made it very safe for you to go to our website.

in fact, the brothers talked to the folks at google, and they made a special arrangement so that when you type in 'j w period' into the google search engine, it automatically shows you the jw.org website.

TTATTelder

"Isn't that a loving provision for our safety?"

That line alone absolutely nauseates me. - ShirleyW

I totally agree. It's like they are saying:

"Isn't it nice Big Brother/Mommy is taking care of us...since we are so helpless and stupid on our own."

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The purpose of changing JW names, titles and terms

by gingerbread in

during a discussion over the weekend, we exchanged ideas about recent changes in terminology related to assembly days, conventions and new titles for the higher-ups.

i commented that for years in 'security' at larger meetings we were told to talk to any that seemed out of place and ask questions that would indicate if they were apostates - antiquated terms like 'overseer' or a reference the 'truth' book.. another in our group brought up the character in the orwell book 1984 and how his job was to separate new and approved terms from old words.

this was called doublethink and blackwhite.

TTATTelder

If they write " Governing Body" they are a loyal JW;

if they write "governing body" they are an apostate. - ADCMS

I guess "governing booty" would get you executed!

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ALL JW's to be at the meeting this week...

by Newly Enlightened in

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we asked this person if it could be aqbout the terminology change and they said that was already read last week...... we remember the last time they did this.

got everyone all excited thinking the big "a" was coming and all it was about, was the literature would now be donated instead of charging for it.. .

TTATTelder

no new letters issued since the "terminology" one in the U.S.

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JWs and catastrophic events

by ilikecheese in

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a natural disaster, a mass shooting, a building collapse, etc.

i sometimes peruse jw facebook groups or look at the public topics on jwtalk.

it seems like every single time something like that happens, at least 75% of the responses contain something along the lines of "i hope all the witnesses are okay!

TTATTelder

I recently overheard an elder saying he can't wait to run a bulldozer in the new system and push all the dead bodies around....

It was a disgusting thing to hear.

So to answer your question, I think because of the whole "all wordly people will be destroyed at Armegeddon" belief, they discount the value of "worldly" people's lives.

Really, though, how could they not feel that way considering the belief system. In JW land, God is holding back his anger right now.

They believe that God is just chomping at the bits to destroy these people. So what's a few early casualties? No big deal.

But let something happen to a precious JW...oh it's time to wail and moan. I mean that's Gods people being hurt, not some worthless worldly person.

-Not many JWs can or will articulate their true level of disdain for their fellow man, but its just under the surface for many of them.

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An Anti-Witnessing Campaign, Please Join Me!

by What Now? in

in the past few weeks, the shunning issue has become a very personal one for me, and i have begun to realize that it is not just enough for me and my family to fade out.

after some recent events, i am motivated to start some anti-watchtower activism of my own.. i, like many others, have hoped that there would be a scandal of epic proportions within the organization, something that would wake others up and trigger a mass exodus.. while i am still hopeful that this may happen, it seems that the organization is too good at damage control, and heightening the paranoia surrounding apostates.. but what if the ex-witness community tried a different approach?.

what if, to borrow a hockey term, a sort of shut out situation was created?.

TTATTelder

Maybe make a pre-done form with fill in blanks for name and such that formally requests to be put on the do not call list.

Elders respond to a letter much more readily than a simple request at the door.

Many publishers forget or lose their notes and never actually follow through with those verbal requests.

Just a thought.

Also definitely shorten up the letter. I would suggest just sticking to the one issue As brief as possible.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Say They Are The Most Educated In The World. How Would You Prove Otherwise?

by minimus in

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they claim their schools, literature and teaching are far more superior than any "worldly" education.

how would you counter that belief?.

TTATTelder

That statement ("most educated") from the GB is simply indocrination.

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If they tell the peeps that, then they won't feel the need to get any outside education.

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The GB's Obsession with the Catholics

by TTATTelder in

the gb for some reason is completely fixated on the roman catholic church (rcc).

they should just say that the rcc is babylon the great and get it over with.. the "world empire of false religion" ??

how often do they talk about muslims?

TTATTelder

RR,

I definitely agree they are cowards. Where is all that confidence in Jehovah when it comes to blasting Islam for being a snare and a racket? How about a few wise cracks about Muhammad being a false god?

Anyway I think it must be based on some of what blondie posted about their history. Catholic judge threw Rutherford and the boys in jail. That combined with basic cheap publicity stunts (Bombastic talks, defamatory writing, picketing etc)

Catholics barely know they exist. Thats what's so funny.

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JW. org: "No, we are not a cult. We do not look to any human as our leader."

by Faithful Witness in

i know this has been rehashed, time and again, but i saw this interesting blip on jw.org last night, and did a little thinking about it.... jw.

org answers the important question that so many have... are jehovah's witnesses a cult?.

jehovah's witnesses do not look to any human as their leader.

TTATTelder

abiblestudent,

IMHO an organization/sect is dangerous whenever it uses BITE control techniques to victimize its members to follow its leaders, or when it takes actions to protect the organization's image to the deteriment of its members' basic human rights and welfare.

Well said.

mynameislame,

It is easy to not be a cult if you define what a cult is.

Some think of a cult as people who kill pigs and drink their blood naked in time square on new years eve.

Obviously we are not a cult.

Hilarious and completely true.

sd-7,

9/15/10 WT, p.23

In this time of the end, Christ has committed “all his belongings”— all the earthly interests of the Kingdom—to his “faithful and discreet slave” and its representative Governing Body, a group of anointed Christian men. (Matt. 24:45-47) The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.

Don't see that quote in their little website answer do ya?

Why wouldn't they mention this reference - in the name of full disclosure? The truth has nothing to hide right?

smiddy,

The definitions they didn`t mention surely identify them as a cult. and they are guilty of the sin of omission .

Bingo.

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Child Abuse or Apostasy...which is worse?

by kneehighmiah in

i believe that apostasy is the ultimate jw sin.

only apostates are mentally diseased.

it's hilarious how a child predator or psychopath has never been called mentally diseased.

TTATTelder

None of the other sins are "sinning against the holy spirit."

So questioning the bad math in the 1914 doctrine is the same as being Judas Iscariot.

Yeah that makes sense.