Posts by kaik

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

Yeah, it is crazy cult. I had visited my mom last month and find out that she suppose to have hip surgery, but my cousins told her that she is wasting time for it because "A" is about to happen. My mom is in pain for a while so I was pushing her to see specialist. When I talked to her about the surgery, she told me she cancelled and she does not even have money post- surgery rehab, because she donated them in June/July on the convention. My cousins said to her, that she would miss a chance if "A" is happening and she will be recovering somewhere in the spa resort. So my mom cancelled all the doctor appointments. I spent entire day with social services to get her to the surgery and if all goes well, she would have one next month.

My cousins also initiated study with my niece and they keep pushing to her that is 101 years since Jesus rule, and she should get baptized in order to survive the storm. Last time I remember my cousins were crazies in the end stage of this world was in the 1989's. It was 70 years since 1919, and they would insist that "A" will be that year!

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The morning after I KILLED myself...

by Divergent in

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a very thought provoking poem.... .

the morning after i killed myself, i woke up.

i made myself breakfast in bed.

kaik

"Suicide for me is one of the most tragic events on the planet. Not just a waste of life but how could the person possibly not see that he/she would get over the problem eventually, that there are people who are concerned for them and will do everything possible to help? That's the real tragedy."

Suicide is issue that is very little debated, but it affects so many families. Many times, it solved permanently temporary issues. However, not all suicides are the same, there is also a deep cultural context (some societies are prone to high level suicides like East Asia, Eastern Europe, and Scandinavia). For many people it was a way to end pain/illness and leave a world with dignity. I had a good, close friend who chose this path. He had a renal disease that was causing him unbelievable pain and at the end he was disabled on dialysis machine. Before his suicide he wrote me very nice long letter, his farewell, and ended his life. His girlfriend told me that he was in so much pain that his suicide was liberation for him. He was no more suffering.

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I'm writing a novel!

by punkofnice in

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i'm up to about 30k words at the moment and still going strong.. i don't expect it'll ever get off the ground.....at least i'm going to try though.. i'm thinking of 6 months time and looking at the route of self publishing.

yes, i want to be a publisher.. it's very violent in places, has violent sexual scenes and very strong language.. it's everything the watchtower(r) said i should avoid.....i wonder if my authentic self has exploded into freedom?.

if you want more info or wish to read a snippet let me know.. i can't think of a title and have changed it several times, at the moment it's called 'boomshot.

kaik

I am in process writing my master's thesis. I got to 3500 words in the summer and I still have 5000 words to go on top of my presentation, graphics, tables, studies. I cannot imagine to write more than 10000 words.

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

kaik

My cousins told my mom that the "A" is coming and will most likely happen this fall because it is 101 years when Jesus started to rule. My mom has surgery scheduled in October they told her not to go, because she may miss a chance to live in paradise, while she is recovering in hospital. I was a kid in 1975, and I remember when my JW aunt told as that we do not have to go to school because "A" is coming. 40 years later, she is dead.

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This sounds suspiciously like the actions of another religion we know of...

by Captain Schmideo2 in

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/15/church-blacklists-103-year-old-granny-then-calls-the-cops-on-her.htmlchurch blacklists 103-year-old granny, then calls the cops on her.

genora hamm biggs had been a member of the union grove baptist church for 92 yearsuntil a new pastor banished her and tried to have her arrested over a clash about the style of a sermon.. a 103-year-old georgia woman was banished from her church for a sin the pastor cant forgiveshe disagreed with how he preached.. genora hamm biggs has attended union grove baptist church in elberton since she was 11 years old.

but last month, rev.

kaik

This happens all the time. Especially, if you get a new priest or preacher and old-timers are not happy. Generally, the congregation waits for the natural, biological way to deal with the issue, but sometimes the priest/congregation would eventually get tired of the old-timers and expel them out. In the link you had on the church, one person posted in the discussion that this old lady was disruptive and majority of the church goers agreed to have her removed from the congregation.

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More of What the Watchtower Didn't Teach You

by CalebInFloroda in

what kind of bible education did the governing body really give us?

how much important information about it did the watchtower really teach us?

how much are we missing out on if we are one of jehovahs witnesses?.

kaik

8. Apocrypha were removed after Reformation, but this was not universal among Christendom. For example Eastern Churches use apocrypha. Some Catholic and Protestant denominations bordering with Eastern Churches (Kingdom of Bohemia, Poland, and Hungary), had Apocrypha included in their bibles. However, in generally Western Protestants did not believed that these books were inspired and were one source of ideological clash during Reformation in the 16th century. Catholic church publishes Bibles either with them or without them.

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Just had a former elder friend tell me, “This Overlapping generation is crap.

by John Aquila in

last night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.

he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.

then out of the blue he tells me; .

kaik

My mom does not believe in the overlapping generation and she knows she will not see the "A". She is 79 and spent most of her life in WT cult. She also told me that explanation of overlapping generation is BS unsupported in the Bible. But my siblings and cousins believe in it as done deal.

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New light!, says JW-Archive. The inspired word can have mistranslations, says Dec 2015 WT

by StarTrekAngel in

sorry, i know i posted this earlier but i believe the title did not gather enough attention.

i think is a topic worth discussing.. http://www.jw-archive.org/post/127866869178/new-light-the-inspired-word-of-god-can.

kaik

Caleb, you are right on this. In the Renaissance, the bible translations from Vulgata to many European languages were performed. For example Czech translations were already done in the 1480's and scholars both Catholics and Protestants were not happy with the outcome. Czech Protestants eventually hired Jewish scholars to get the translation done from original language and skipping Vulgata altogether, which became known as Kralice Bible. Catholics did not agree with this translation, and created new one in the 17th century under Jesuit guidelines.

So we are not only talking about reshaping the text before canonization, but making mistakes once the texts were finalized not only via copying but in the translation process into other languages.

Now it also crucial that languages change and develop through the centuries, so spoken language in 1550 is far different from language today. Even Latin and Greek language went through development stage during Antiquity. The Classical Latin evolved in Medieval and later Renaissance until its usage among educated scholars declined in the Enlightenment. At the end, there is not really any perfect Bible translation.

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New light!, says JW-Archive. The inspired word can have mistranslations, says Dec 2015 WT

by StarTrekAngel in

sorry, i know i posted this earlier but i believe the title did not gather enough attention.

i think is a topic worth discussing.. http://www.jw-archive.org/post/127866869178/new-light-the-inspired-word-of-god-can.

kaik

Mistranslation in the Bible exist for 15 centuries. During medieval times when only handful bibles were in existence and often available only to the royal family, there were already disputes on translation and meaning of the text. Therefore, often secondary text occurred immediately after the major edition. This problem became more prevalent when Greek and Latin bibles were translated into local languages starting in the 15th century.

WT bibles will follow the same issues that faced medieval scholars in the monasteries rewriting and copying old test into a new Bible. I often looking into different translations of the bible online, because the differences in the text can be significant.

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Why, Why, Why did God create such a difference between Jews and Gentile....?

by James Mixon in

why such a difference between jew and gentiles, so that the jew is at once.

recognized, no matter what race he lives among.. and how did the jews come to have such strange traditions setting apart, racially.

and religiously from gentiles???.

kaik

Generally, Asian social and cultural collapse started in the 1200s after Mongol and Timur conquests which devastated entire continent from China to Syria. I had read some of the travelers diaries into Middle East and many were extremely disappointed from material, social, and cultural development in Orient. I remember like mentioning visiting a capital city of Persian empire which was nothing more than pile of rubble. Incredible poverty in China even for European medieval/renaissance standard. This gap between West and Far East was finally bridged in the 21st century. Nonetheless, Italy was in the 1400-1600 the wealthiest region in the world, and later Amsterdam was the wealthiest city in world until its disposition in the 18th century. Many had wondered what caused the region between Northern Sea and Mediterranean to accumulate such large wealth, but I tend to agree with the opinion that it was the decentralization of the power and economies that helped the community to survive better.