Evangelical movement find another heros of the crusades against gay people, a gay & lesbian people who do not have a sex. Decades ago, they prized gay people who married and breed children with opposite sex to show that they are not gay. In medieval times, when celibacy was prized as the highest virtue together with poverty and starvation, people often disfugured themselves to ensure they are not attractive. Women cut their noses and burned their breasts so nobody would tempt them, while men castrated themselves. So in their twisted reasoning, you can be gay in your mind, but you cannot engage in same sex relationship. They beat themselves in the chest how they sacrificed their sexuality and get paraded like did medieval beggers with leprosis in front of the church.
Posts by kaik
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9Sunday Washington Post: Gay Christians choosing celibacy emerge from the shadows.
by Balaamsass2 inlocal.
gay christians choosing celibacy emerge from the shadows.
despite encountering criticism, the lgbt community is finding greater acceptance, even in religious circles.
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What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?
by Zoos inwe all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?
i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.
i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .
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kaik
There were seveal crazy calculations by Russell who attempted to combine various era, years, jubelee and contemporary events to prove his points. In the Studies in the scriptures, he wrote numerous examples on how he got into this year. There are several pivotal years like 1799 in which Napoleon took over Rome, 539 with Justinan capture of Rome...
"While the time prophecies thus point to and harmonize with 1874 as the date of our Lord's second presence, assuring us of the fact with mathematical precision, we find ourselves overwhelmed with evidence of another character; for certain peculiar signs, foretold by the Lord and the apostles and prophets, which were to precede his coming, are now clearly recognized as actually fulfilled. We see that the promised Elias has indeed come; that his teachings have been rejected, just as predicted; and that therefore the great time of trouble must follow. The predicted Man of Sin, the Antichrist, has also made his appearance, and accomplished his long and terrible reign; and at the exact "time appointed" (1799) his dominion was taken away. The cleansing of the sanctuary was also accomplished as predicted, and at a time sufficiently in advance of 1874 to make ready "a people prepared for the Lord"--a people in devout expectancy of his coming--just as a similar work prior to the first advent made ready a people to receive him then. We find that the date 1874 is also in harmony with the prophecy of Daniel (12:1), which fixes the advent of "Michael" in the "Time of the End"--that is, somewhere between 1799 and 1914--and as the cause and precursor of the great time of trouble. When seventy-five years of this "Day of Preparation" had developed the proper conditions for the beginning of his great work, then the Master stepped upon the scene--quietly, "without outward show"--"in like manner" as he went away.
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Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?
by cultBgone ini was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.
i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.
did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?
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kaik
What I had awaken me was study of the book, The Revelation, Grand Climax at the hand. My thought after this study was that WT just makes the stuff out. This was my awakening. Than I looked around and saw cold religion that cared little about anyone else. I walked away right after this 20 years ago. I think my mon knows its all BS but leaving cult at her age after decades, she worries to lose social ties that mean very much to her.
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What Will U Spend For XMas This Year?
by minimus ini think most exjws are frugal when it comes to xmas.
what is your budget for gift giving?.
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kaik
I dont care for xmas, but will spent time with my inlaws who are mostly Jewish. We exchange gift through much the year when I see them. I mailed lego to my nephew. I appreciate the family time and having people who are not JWs to be kind to me. This matters most.
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Shipping items to the Philippines. Does anyone have experience shipping to other countries?
by adjusted knowledge ini live in the usa and want to ship my game consoles (xbox, playstation, wi, ect), laptop, and other items to my wife's family in the philippines.
i've used a company locally that ships there at a fix price of $90 per box.
so whatever i fit in the box will ship at that rate regardless of weight.
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kaik
adjusted knowledge, your PS will not play games made for Asia/Japan market, so consider this, because Sony makes games regionally locked.
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My problem with Original Sin
by leftbelow ini found this quote in a book i was reading and it struck me this is why original sin is a problem for me.. damnation is the start of your morality, destruction is its purpose, means and end.
your code begins by damning man as evil, then demands that he practice a good which it defines as impossible for him to practice.
it demands, as his first proof of virtue, that he accept his own depravity without proof.
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kaik
Jews do not believe in Original sin, and it is a teaching that is not in Judaism. It was fully formulated by St. Augustine in 4th century. Jewish beliefs uphold idea that human's life is created sinless and perfect, and human start to sin due inability to uphold G-d's laws. Therefore, orginal sin is a foreigner concept in Judaism and was proposed by Christians to ensure salvation through Jesus, while making Jewish beliefs obsolete.
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Do Jws even need Jesus?
by TTWSYF injust thinking out loud becauseof some things my elder brother has said in the past.
how his works help ensure his future w/the great crowd on earth.. .
well, i need jesus for my salvation,but perhaps some of you do not.. just asking.
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kaik
JWs do not care about Jesus, because their salvation lies in riding the "ark of Brooklyn and the FDS" through the Armageddon. He does not play a role in the JWs lives, but only with 144,000 who are mostly dead. JWs do not celebrate, nor participate on his Memorial, except the choosen one. If you are not the small pack, you are meaningless to Jesus; therefore, ordinary JW does not need him.
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One of my main problems with the WT: A very irresponsible organization
by Hidden-Window inone of my main problems with the watch tower and, more specifically, with the governing body is the level of irresponsibility seen when lives of people are involved and their unapologetical attitude when people suffer due to their absurd policies.. how many people were imprisoned or killed for refusing to perform civil service in exchange for military service?.
we do not know, but it does not matter, because the society does not even apologize for the harm their blinking light caused.. how many people died or contracted illnesses due to the prohibition of vaccines?.
we might never know, but an apology is not on the menu.. how many people died for refusing (or disfellowshipped for accepting) fractions of blood when it was against the rules?.
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kaik
The number of dead JWs from blood transfusion is significant and it is in thousands over the years. While the number of 250,000 dead since 1945 is huge and unsupported by official statistics, it is easier to search government sites and medical journals dealing with this issue. I had encountered various numbers looking into .gov, .eu., .edu sites, but even if 1% of them die every year (77,000) and from this number 1% die due blood transfusion ban, this is still significant as 770 will perish every year due this nonsense. I had encountered a number from medical journals which estimates that one in 180 of Jehovah witnesses will die due this ban in industrialized country. This would still translate to 42000 of present JW in our life time. It would be interested to see the real numbers at least from several large countries like Japan, USA, and Germany.
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Solomon's Temple was there one??
by Crazyguy inits interesting to find out that there is no evidence of king david or his son solomon.
what about this amazing temple that solomon supposedly built??
there is no arcylogical evidence that it ever excisted either.
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kaik
Various studies from archeology have yet to prove that Temple of Solomon existed. There is no evidence of existence of David. Jewish and Catholic archeologists past 120-140 years try to find one single proof that temple existed at time when OT said it did.
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Your favourite dog breed ...?
by LoveUniHateExams inin an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.
huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.
this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.
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kaik
Sail Away, cute little dog, furry princess.