JWs are pursuing outdated model of proselytation that had worked 80-40 years ago, but does not work anymore. People are less interested in religion and even other religious groups suffered similar fate where the potential fish pond run out of any new fish. In older times, people would not mind to talk to stranger on the street, but in present society, this is impossible. People are too independent and individualistic which makes hard for JWs to penetrate beyond the human shell.
Posts by kaik
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23JWs - A View From Outside
by Joe Grundy ini never was a jw (i make this point in - almost - every post) but having been brought up ('raised' for our us cousins) in a non-conformist fundy sect with 'rapture' aspirations, it wasn't that different.. i still have extended family members in it, or in that mindset, but we rarely discuss religion.
in particular, my sister and bil lost their son (my nephew) some years ago when he was just 13. their comfort is that he is in a 'better place' and i don't want to challenge that to them.. i keep up with all things jw here in this forum and maintain my academic interest and these are just my thoughts as an outsider, for what they are worth.. ime, those people who have heard of jws tend to lump them in with mormons and other crazies and have no knowledge or interest in them - other than to warn neighbours when they are about.. where i live should be prime 'witnessing' territory but they rarely come round, even in the recent leafletting campaign.
they are not as effective as the people who regularly call with the latest menus from the local curry/chinese/kebab houses.. on the occasions when jws have called, despite invitations to come in and have a cup of tea, etc., none has ever wanted to engage in conversation, far less progress to an invitation to a kh meeting or start a bible study (and i always present myself as an 'imterested householder').. my conversations with people in general and friends in the real world lead me to conclude that few people have heard of jws, those that have regard them as a minor irrevelant nuisance and that there is no interest in their message or beliefs.. a few months ago i did a 'drive-past' of the million pound seafront property in bangor, north wales that wt recently bought for use as a 'translation office' (ha ha!).
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Changing Careers: The difficult path to starting over.
by adjusted knowledge ini became employed with my current company after high school in 1995. i'm a manager and make decent income for the area i live ($65k).
it provides for the basic and some extra.
i have a wife and a daughter.
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kaik
I have changed careers through the life, but always pursued in the field I like and have both earned my undergrad and postgrad in it. I changed job this year after 8 years in the same industry as I felt that I could not learn anything new and was not challenged enough. Career change is often hard. I left my job that had great team and I was respected leader. However, I knew I can do better and this was a reason for the change.
You should never leave job until you have something lined up. Job is money and money is security. The career path depends on your abilities, interests, and opportunities. I love history, but there are not jobs in it, so it is my hobby. Many people go into field to find out that there is no demand. If you consider nursing, ask what you want to do. It is still broad field. It is extremely demanding field that can cause burn out. Some field could allow you to choose specialization in nursing, occupational therapy, and so on. You can also consider going for some specialist and technician. One of my friend changed career in later part of his life as radiologist and he loves it. Look into the job market on line and what skills in healthcare are in demand. Figure out where you can stand out. While many people and many news say that nursing is always in demand, there are 200,000 in that field entering the job market every year.
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Children calling jw adults uncle and auntie, when did that start?
by awakening ini cant figure out when the auntie and uncle thing started or why.
it sure is a peadophiles dream to have a kid they dont know call them uncle!
they are now in a special relationship.
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kaik
I am sure it is not cultural concept, because it was very uncomfortable to call in Eastern Europe someone who is not related by blood as aunt and uncle. If it was used in the common street language as a slang, it always meant elderly citizen in the village. But for urban population this expression was definately no normal. Mr and Mrs were the standard. However, when my parents got involved with the cult in the 1970's we were required to call adults as aunt and uncle.
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Armageddon will be here in less than 4 years!
by hoser inthat's the word according to my mil.
mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.
her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.
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kaik
In the 1980's I used to hear that Armageddon will be next year or even sooner. The 70 years aniversary when Jesus selected his bride in 1919 was approaching. Yet, 30 years later, I am still here.
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Children calling jw adults uncle and auntie, when did that start?
by awakening ini cant figure out when the auntie and uncle thing started or why.
it sure is a peadophiles dream to have a kid they dont know call them uncle!
they are now in a special relationship.
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kaik
I remember it from Europe 40 years ago.
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This is Really Getting Scary!!! PLEASE LOOK!!
by NoMoreHustle instupid me does not know how to copy paste pics from instagram site.
nmh.
http://instagram.com/p/vbu5_xhiam/.
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kaik
I was in 1991 in DC in Prague-Strahov with 80,000 JWs. It was brutally hot in the pan as it was in the middle of the summer. Sisters wore turtle neck blouses and it was not appropriate to even show elbow. Skirts were often dragged on the floor. I remember that American elderettes were with their fashion out of the style due extremely bright red colors, big hairdo, and expensive handbags. The women in Strahov where something I seen on old painting some old baroque paintings where except their face, everything was covered up, even in the summer. Definitelly the cult has evolved. The local newspapers always picked on JW women distributing literature to be standing with their stretched out sweaters and turtle necks, and they were a big joke for the media due this appearance, especially in Eastern Europe, where women do not dress modestly.
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I Waited Until My Wedding Night To Lose My Virginity And I Wish I Hadn't...
by Divergent ini found this article interesting & just wanted to share.
after going through my teenage years trying to be the perfect jw, i realized that trying to live up to the standards imposed on me have been for worse & not for better.
i was feeling miserable, repressed, unfulfilled, with a great lack of self confidence & self esteem.
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kaik
Also virginity is bad for women due higher risk of breast cancer. Having lost two friends recently to it, and one of them was single and never married, I do not think there is much value in keeping virginity intact. Nuns have one of the highest incidence of breast cancer.
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I Waited Until My Wedding Night To Lose My Virginity And I Wish I Hadn't...
by Divergent ini found this article interesting & just wanted to share.
after going through my teenage years trying to be the perfect jw, i realized that trying to live up to the standards imposed on me have been for worse & not for better.
i was feeling miserable, repressed, unfulfilled, with a great lack of self confidence & self esteem.
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kaik
I remember teaching around mid 1980's where it was said that virginity was sacred. I do not remember in which book study or WT, but the topic was encouraged virginity. One young sister wanted to be virgin until her marriage with the rigth borther. But nobody has appeared, and 25 years later in her 40's, she is totally alone, no kids, no husband, nothing. And she was really pretty.
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Are we approaching the Waco/Jonestown/Heaven's Gate finale?
by JimmyPage inlarge groups are being gathered to video screens to blatantly worship the governing body.
this self-proclaimed faithful slave show no signs of softening their treatment of the flock.
their backs are against the wall and the legal world is turning against them in a big way.
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kaik
Nope, the GB loved the attention and worship of 8 millions of suckers. The worship is what is giving them a reason and money is just little added bonus for very comfortable life. These people will never go the Waco way. Traveling all over the world, resting in best hotels, designer cloths. People like these see the death with sadness because they ave to leave it behind.
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I was a poll worker
by Hortensia ini worked the election yesterday, here in california, poll worker, from 6 a.m. to 10:30 p.m. it was fun and interesting, went pretty smoothly, nice day.
it was very depressing to come home, look at the news, and find that the republicans now control the senate.. .
do you think canada would take me?
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kaik
BOR, the democractic system all over the world is not efficient and USA is not exception. However, there is very little alternative political alertnativse which would either result of right/left wing dicatorship, absolutims, or oligarchy. Combine with massive apathy of potential voters who do not care at all about politics, this only increased the change for extremism to thrive. GOP at present form is extremist, neofascist party (as seen by non American observers), which based its grassroot support among aged or impoverished demographics, while middle class does not feel to be represented by Democrats and thus does not vote. Either way, every society has type of goverment its deserves. If people do not want ACA but faith based healthcare, retirement, education, and want to be ruled by OT laws, be it. 2000 years of failed governments based on Christianity speaks on its own. They could not deserve anything else.
Biggest problem for the health of te democracy is failing democratic standards. In the freedom of press, USA is not even in top 25 countries. There is a huge quality difference between British, French and Austrian (yes Austrian, NOT GERMAN nor Australian) newspapers and media, and American one. Free and independent media is the first step for better public service instead radiating propaganda from specific lobby groups. But people love its media and this will not change in out life time if ever.
One of the bloodiest dictatror of the 18th century, Maximiliane Robespierre wrote:
What is our aim?
It is the use of the constitution for the benefit of the people.
Who is likely to oppose us?
The rich and the corrupt.
What methods will they employ?
Slander and hypocrisy.
What factors will encourage the use of such means?
The ignorance of the sans-culottes.
The people therefore must be instructed.
What are the obstacles to their enlightenment?
The paid journalists who mislead the people every day by shameless distortions.
What conclusion follows?
That we ought to proscribe these writers as the most dangerous enemies of the country and to circulate an abundance of good literature.
The people- what other obstacle is there to their instruction?
Their destitution.
When will the people be educated?
When they have enough bread to eat, when the rich and the government stop bribing treacherous pens and rogues to deceive them and instead identify their own interests with those of the people.
When will this be?
Never.I disagree with Jacobins and everything what they stood for, but problem with media and generally ignorance of masses will be always obstacle to the enlightenment. This was known 221 years ago and anyone can make own conclucion...