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  Witnesses still having some success at doors

  by JH in

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  riding around the city this morning i saw 2 witnesses from my congregation talking to a man at his door, and they seemed to have placed a book or magazine.

  although they did not enter his house, they stead there at his door a couple of minutes.

  although most do not answer or accept anything from witnesses, he seemed to be an exception.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  By far the vast majority of those who took literature from me, were doing so to just be polite because I had somehow "caught" them at the door. Either they couldn't hide (out working in the yard) or they were from deep in the rurals where strangers never ever come to their door (selling candy or whatever else people go d-t-d selling in larger towns and cities), and they feel compelled by politeness to answer the door (like some people feel compelled to answer the phone even if they don't feel like talking to anyone).

  I knew they were just being polite, and they knew I knew (hey, I have small-town social skills too). Some people in my congregation were relentless in making these poor souls RVs (it's a shame they should suffer for their politeness), and just hounded them every 2 weeks (this, in an area where householders occasionally said things like, "But you were just here!"...."Really, when?"..."Last year about this time!").

  I, personally felt guilty about harassing people who were painfully uncomfortable with having me at their door, but took the mags anyway (this did get me flack from some COs and elders or other pioneers, especially those who had been with me when someone took literature). So I didn't call back on them. Especially after the elderly Catholic woman I'd stopped by to see 3 or 4 times actually burst into tears and wailed, "Oh, why can't you just leave me alone???" (God that was traumatic, for me even more so than her! and it was bad enough for her!!)

  I'd go back on those who didn't seem to mind, and say something like, "If you enjoy the magazines, I can arrange to bring them by whenever we're in the area, every month or few weeks. Would you like that?" I had RVs but only those who actually wanted the mags dropped off.
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  Walking With Cavemen

  by Blueblades in

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  cavemen evolve into homosapiens over a span of 3,500,000 years.. how is it that this statement is stated as fact?

  if it is proven as fact,then is the genesis account of creation false?.

  in order to believe it must one believe in evolution?.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  OK, the nitpicker has arrived on the thread (you can throw things if you like )

  repeat after me...hominid...hom-i-nid...not "humanoid"...hominid (hey, it's a common and easy mistake to make) Australopithecines were hominids but I wouldn't call them 'humanoids' ("huminoid" is something from a sci-fi movie )

  Neanderthal Man did not become extinct. Anyone who has been on a night out in Manchester can see dozens of these creatures walking the streets at night.

  Very funny. As late as a year or so ago, there was still debate among Physical anthropologists whether Neanderthals completely died out or whether some few interbred with H. sapiens who migrated into Europe (Neanderthals were there first). There was also debate about whether the species should be Homo neanderthalensis or Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. Last I heard, the jury was still out on that, but it's possible that genetic testing in the past year or so has settled it and I didn't hear (it's been a year and a half since my last phys anth class).
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  Something I was never told about JW's.....

  by Algun Otro in

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  .... those meetings are soooooooo boring.

  and don't get me started on the 3 days of hell i just spent at the district convention.

  (actually, if there isn't really a "hell", then it was 3 days of "non-existence") ok, ok, i get it.... as a witness, i should "give god glory", and make sure everything i do is being done in the glory of god.... but i don't need 3 days to get that point across.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Its just another religion to me, and if you follow their tenets closely, nothing bad is really going to happen to you. It's not like some cults who demand all of your money, or for you pack up and move to a compound....

  Ummm...dude...they require you die or let your children die rather than take a blood transfusion. Did you not know about that?

  Are you aware that there are a huge number of JW children who were sexually abused by JW men, and the parents were told that since there were not 2 witnesses, there was no 'proof' (according to JW theology), and that nothing would be done to the abuser and that if the parents told anyone else or went to the police they would be disfellowshipped? (many were - there are currently lawsuits against the society for this)

  I'd consider either of these 2 things "something bad that really might happen to you". (I'm guessing you didn't know?)
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  Worship Me!

  by Vivamus in

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  i said: worship me!!!.

  dutch district overbeer

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Any other godchicks or godblokes out there?

  I dunno...my husband refers to me as "She Who Must Be Obeyed (and just don't p*ss her off!)"
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  Boy 'Pregnant' With His Own Twin Brother

  by Pleasuredome in

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  boy 'pregnant' with his .

  own twin brother.

  by barbara davies.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Does anyone else watch Southpark and was thinking about "Conjoined twin Myslexia" when they read this??
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  What was the "final straw" that made you leave the JW's ??????

  by run dont walk in

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  what happened or was said, that made you decide, enough is enough, i am out of here ?????

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  feeling bad about wanting to read about other religions, philosophy, or just take a friggin' yoga class, that I was worn out emotionally

  Didn't that just suck?? I mean, when you didn't even do anything "wrong" but were made to feel like you had done something bad and spiritually dangerous by even wanting to do something that was forbidden "discouraged"!!
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  Are there any real reasons to go on living?

  by Robdar in

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  i would be interested in hearing a few.

  for the life of me (pun intended) i can't think of any good ones.. robyn

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  What is the point to living when all is insanity? What sort of cosmic joke is being played out in our lives?

  That's why I love pets.

  Cats aren't given to introspection. If cats were told their life was a 'cosmic joke', the cat's response would be, "So?" Cats don't sit around and wonder whether or not the Bible is God's word, or whether there is a God or not. They know that just being a cat is enough and their life is not changed by answers (or lack of answers) to those types of questions. The sun comes up in the morning whether there is a God or not. Their life really wouldn't change either way. They sit in their sunbeam, they bug their people when the food dish is empty, and they don't waste time and effort worrying about the "big philosophical questions in life" that are actually impossible to answer with any degree of uncertainty. A cat's response to "What is the meaning of life?" would be "Who cares? Right now there's a sunbeam over there with my name on it. Gotta go."

  Dogs don't take a lot to make them happy. If the cat kicks them off the comfy chair, they go find another place to sleep and like it there too. Sometimes you get to go for a ride in the car and get to hang your head out. Laying with your head in the lap of somebody you love is the best thing in life. These things don't change if you suddenly think the Bible might not be God's word and maybe some other religion is right. Your food dish is still in the same place. Bones can be chewed just as well.
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  My Becoming a JW

  by Juliana in

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  i was raised non-religious.

  i don't call myself an atheist as such because i don't like to label anyone, but i don't actually believe in god (though i am christian in background, and several branches of family family are roman catholic).

  my fiance knows this.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  One thing all the non- and x- JW men married to still-JW women need to keep in mind (I know you know it), is that the situation of a non- or x-JW woman married to a JW man is worlds apart from your situation.

  Those of us who have lived it would never advocate even 'giving it a chance'. There's too much risk that, even if he was inactive when married, something would click and he'd go back. The only way I'd advocate a relationship with an x-JW man is if he was a full-blown apostate. Yes, I know I'm cutting off some potentially great guys by saying that, and that's unfair to them, but it's just not worth the risk.

  Being a non-JW woman in a relationship with a JW man is binding up your heart in razor wire and broken glass and pouring on the salt. Day after day. It's being wounded and watching the wounds heal a little bit and having them ripped open again and again. And knowing he's doing this on the advice of his religious leaders, being urged to do this to you. And even though he claims to love you he's willing to do it. And I say this as someone who loves, and did love, a JW husband (he's out now)

  Hell, if my husband came home tonight and said, "I've been thinking about studying again, and going back." I'd leave him. Period. No discussion, no second chance. No way I would ever risk going through that particular hell again.

  As bad as being the non-JW husband is (and I know it's bad)...it's at least 10 times better than being a non-JW wife in similar circumstances. Trust us.
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  Can anybody point me in the direction of a district convention?

  by pascaljon in

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  i know some of you may find this strange, but i really want to go along to a district convention this year.

  its been eight years since i last went and i was wondering how things would look from a mature apostate perspective.

  a convention near to sheffield england would be good, but perhaps not too near so i can avoid being trailed by security.

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  Can anybody point me in the direction of a district convention?

  Yeah. Turn left just past the gates of Hell and around the corner from the psych ward.
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  How Screwed Up Are You Because You Were A Jehovah's Witness???

  by minimus in

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  after reading so many experiences about how being a jw affected a person's life, i wonder how your life has turned out because you were at one time a witness.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  My guess is, very few people on earth are not "screwed up" to some degree.

  However, the problem with the org is, you're not only screwed up (to a greater or lesser extent, by alcoholism in your family, or abuse, or whatever), you are given bad advice on how to deal with it. Horrible advice. Warped advice. Advice that makes the situation infinitely worse (usually).

  You are not only given the advice, you are pressured to apply it. Browbeaten into applying it. Threatened with eternal destruction, not only to apply it, but to believe it is good, balanced, wonderful advice, when all evidence and most of your common sense screams at you that it is not.

  In short, the organization not only makes your life worse, it browbeats you into twisting your mind into thinking it's better. And browbeats you with guilt if you don't either follow the advice or believe it's good.

  In short, it screws with your mind and guts your trust in your own judgement. This is very bad.