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  Kingdom Hall Spankings

  by JH in

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  most meetings i went to, children were brought to the washrooms in the back to be disciplined.

  often i could hear a child yell or cry due to the spanking given by the parent.

  people in the hall would have that look on their face meaning that it was alright to discipline a child by spanking him.

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  144thousand_and_one

  The very existence of this thread is a sad commentary on the treatment of children by many Jehovah's Witnesses. I too was a victim of and witnessed much physical abuse during my years as a child slave of the Watchtower Corporations. I would give examples but I think enough have been given by a number of individuals here.

  The subhuman gristle that constitutes the "governing body" ought to be taken out and caned, in order to afford them an opportunity to empathize with the multitudes of Jehovah's Witness children who have been subjected to physical abuse at the hands of their parents who in many cases were encouraged to engage in such despicable behavior by publications of the Watchtower or the pressure of their peers in the kingdom hall.

  Many witnesses will discount these horrid accounts by denial and/or placing the blame on others. However, at our kingdom hall, and at many mentioned in this thread, parents physically abused their children on Kingdom Hall property, with full knowledge of the elders who were present in the hall. Their failure to take action to stop and/or prevent future occurrences is indicative of their tacit approval of such abuse. Jehovah's Witness denials of these events, in addition to being untruthful, are disingenuous at best.

  Those who abuse children deserve nothing more than a jail cell, regardless of their religious affiliations.
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  Do you ever think about returning to Jehovah

  by ikhandi in

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  maybe i was just curious to hear what they were going to discuss.

  i went to the two day circuit assembly.

  for those who wonder, its theme was taken from psalms 37:3 it's theme trust in jehovah and do good.

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  144thousand_and_one

  I can't understand that feeling, as I never enjoyed being there in the first place. I, like many if not most JW children, was an involuntary participant, coerced to attend meetings and peddle the snake oil via the threat of severe beatings. If you really enjoyed circuit assemblies, then have at it! I'm sure they'll welcome you back, that is, after you suffer enough humiliation to afford the elders an opportunity to reinstate you.

  BTW, I've been out for over 20 years, and have never had such an inclination or desire.
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  Need some info on Pistols

  by jelly in

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  i am thinking of getting a pistol and i am not sure of what kind to get.

  i went to an indoor range today and tried out a glock .45 (the smaller model) and a heavier .45. i found the glock rested well in my hand but i could shoot much more accurately with the heavier (and longer barreled) pistol.

  any way, i am looking for a home protection / target practice pistol and would like any input on what caliber to get.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Use a baseball bat. It's more enjoyable and heck, it's part of an American pastime!
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  is this acceptable punishment for kids of JWS?

  by phillipau in

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  i am not a jw myself but i am wondering if this is the proper punishment for kids of jws ?.

  my 2 neices are aged 12 &10 their step dad and mother are practising jw,s and the step dad thinks this is acepptable punishment for these girls.

  he pulls down their knickers and hits these girls with a belt untill there are welts on their backsides.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Linking severe corporal punishment with JWs is a nonsense, it's far more likely to have socio-economic causes . . . - scotsman

  Scotsman, with all due respect, you are full of s&it. I recall attending district assemblies at Dodger Stadium as a kid, and when you got up to use the restroom, it was very common to see many parents beating their children in the back areas of each floor of the stadium, with belts, wooden spoons, paddles, switches, etc.. You could hear the screaming from the seats. Los Angeles has all socioeconomic classes, but I can clearly recall the words of the elders at our meetings, "spare the rod, spoil the child," which were used to justify the beatings that were commonplace at our kingdom hall. Even if it were true that they didn't encourage this, they certainly condoned it by allowing it to occur for many years on property owned or leased by them.

  Most of the beatings seemed to be attributable to the inability of children to sit still for hours and hours of boring, mindless programming that their brainwashed, intolerant parents either enjoyed or pretended to enjoy. District assemblies at Dodger Stadium were held in the summer, and temperatures in the seats frequently exceeded 100 degrees farenheit. I remember dreading attending these gatherings that seemed to be nothing more than a misery fest. What sort of sick, lowlife individual(s) would organize meetings/assemblies with these conditions and no child care facilities?

  Your effort to absolve the Jehovah's Witnesses of moral responsibility for engaging in and encouraging the physical abuse of children is both disingenuous and despicable. It's time for the JWs to admit that their treatment of children has been inappropriate and take action to ensure that there are no further occurrences of them condoning or encouraging the physical abuse of children.

  Edited to clean up formatting errors

  Edited by - 144thousand_and_one on 4 February 2003 20:35:16
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  Are You In Support Of Starting A War In Iraq ?

  by minimus in

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  it looks inevitable.

  do you think this is more a carry over from president pappy bush's not getting the job done while he was in office?

  do you think the usa and it's allies can fight multiple wars??

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  Those who think assasination is the answer fail to notice that Saddam's sons make him look like a nice guy. One will likely succeed him, and kill the other.

  Saddam is indeed evil, but Bush and his cronies have provided absolutely no evidence connecting him to 9/11 or corroborating his claims that Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction. There are a lot of bad leaders in the world, should we sacrifice our brave soldiers to help every country run by a thug?

  Bush is playing with fire here; invading Iraq could have devastating effects on what is already a terrible economy. It could also lead to another catastrophe on our soil that might even exceed the damage of 9/11. 9/11 proved we aren't invincible; the damage was done without a shot being fired. Hopefully, all of us will survive Bush's presidency.
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  Spirit in my house?

  by Sirona in

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  just thought i'd share with you some wierd happenings in my house..... i woke up one morning to see the figure of a young boy standing looking at me.

  he was there for a split second then vanished.

  i wasn't afraid - it was just sort of wierd.

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  Somehow, those ghosts, demons, and spirits never materialized around me, despite constant parental and Dubddom claims that they did indeed exist. Maybe I was so bad that they deemed overt action unnecessary? I can't rule them out just because I've never experienced their presence, but I also can't rule out UFOs, the Loch Ness Monster, or Big Foot (notwithstanding recent reports that the purported inventor of the "Big Foot" hoax recently passed away).

  I remember JW tales of field service experiences where hands came out of tvs, books floated, etc., yet no one at the doors wanted to show me the fun stuff they showed the other brothers. I guess their psychic abilities enabled them to determine that I was not baptized yet nor likely to ever be baptized, so there was no need to expose me to such things.

  Edited by - 144thousand_and_one on 3 January 2003 1:33:57
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  Punk song: "Jehovahs Witness"

  by 144thousand_and_one in

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  i just came across this song by a punk bank p/k/a "blanks 77.

  " it is entitled "jehovahs witness.

  " i found a site with the lyrics: .

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  144thousand_and_one

  I just came across this song by a punk bank p/k/a "Blanks 77." It is entitled "Jehovahs Witness." I found a site with the lyrics:

  "here they come knocking at my door don't wanna hear it, can't take it no more i'm still sleeping, can't you see jehovahs witness, bothering me we don't want no pamphlets no donation from me, you brainwashed tons o' people but you'll never fool me get your hand outta the collection plate! save that for the god you create! chapels are made of silver and gold your teaching is a scam for the money you hold why can't people just think for themselves organized religion's a joke believe what they say, don't question the word i can't take it no more! you drink his blood and eat his flesh sounds pretty sick to me why don't you just shut your mouth why don't you just let me be!"

  They have (or had as one site stated they broke up?) the 80's sound and a nice energetic feel. Check them out!
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  JW schoolteacher order to put up XMas tree

  by blondie in

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  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kr/20021224/lo_krnewyork/out_on_limb_over_christmas_trees

  when told to put up tree, teacher says:

  "no one can be made to put up a christmas tree," attio said.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Scully,

  Exposing children to Christmas trees, menorahs and the Muslim crescent and star is just as offensive to many atheists as this JW teacher's conduct is to many others. The main issue is neutrality, if all symbols of religious faith are presented in a display, the display is not neutral as it doesn't include a symbol representing the views of atheists. Maybe a Darwin fish?
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  JW schoolteacher order to put up XMas tree

  by blondie in

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  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kr/20021224/lo_krnewyork/out_on_limb_over_christmas_trees

  when told to put up tree, teacher says:

  "no one can be made to put up a christmas tree," attio said.

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  144thousand_and_one

  Scully,

  The problem with the "multiculturism" approach is that it excludes those who choose not to believe in man's religions. Scam (church) and state ought to be separate!
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  JW schoolteacher order to put up XMas tree

  by blondie in

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  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kr/20021224/lo_krnewyork/out_on_limb_over_christmas_trees

  when told to put up tree, teacher says:

  "no one can be made to put up a christmas tree," attio said.

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  144thousand_and_one

  While she may indeed be a hypocrite, I don't like the idea of a public school ordering a teacher to display religious symbols of any nature. I wonder if the WT legal team has time to make a case out of this, or are too busy dealing with pedophile related suits?