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  My introduction

  by zakharijah in

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  ok i think its time i introduce myself... and sorry, its going to be verrry long.. .

  i am 32, married, 2 children.

  i am french but i live in scotland.. .

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  70wksfyrs

  Well done for your achievments so far. You have more to come!!!
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  Update on my fade

  by wizzstick in

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  it's been over 3 months since i first posted after years of lurking:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/253883/1/my-story-a-kinda-newbie-from-the-uk#.ukhopt-yza8.

  and what a 3 months it's been.

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  70wksfyrs

  Fabulous news. The fact that the two of you are planning a fade together you can nave some fun with it too!!! Maybe try a bit of intellectual intimidation with Brother Throwthekidsout, that will cheer your wife up!
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  Which KHall Did You Go To Or Visit, That Had The Nicest People, (Like JW's Are Supposed To Be?)

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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  this was inspired by the poster "integ"'s thread: warmth of the khall.. the nicest group of people i have ever met at a khall was the one in key west, florida.. loislane .

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  70wksfyrs

  The nicest and warmest congregation I have visited was the one I went to in jeans and t-shirt
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  Please help me with my mother...

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  ok so... now knowing how important it is not to "spill all the beans"... i am working secretly and cautiously on getting my mother out!.

  i have started with some recon work:.

  me: so mom, how did you come into the truth?.

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  70wksfyrs

  I agree with most post here slow is better. This months WT with all the new thoughts is good.

  Are the GB the FDS?

  When were they appointed?

  Are they yet to be appointed?

  Why have we got do many adjusted thoughts in this mag?

  I used these questiond with my son, to get him to critically think about the watchtower articles.
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  Abiogenesis - moving on from the Urey Miller Experiment

  by cantleave in

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  abiogenesis is the field of study whereby the answers to how the chemistry of life was initiated are explored.

  unlike evolution, which is described and understood via a number of falsifiable models which explain the observations made in the natural world, most models of abiogenesis will remain unfalsifiable and hence open to debate.

  the issue being of course that the conditions under which those first chemical reactions occurred no longer exist and trying to recreate an approximation of these in the lab requires a great deal patience, ingenuity and of course some intelligent guess work!

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  Wow fantastic opening post. Your research on Russell’s hypothesis is extensive. I have not read his works, but maybe you could tell me when the formation of monomers was discovered was he able to identify the enantiomers that were formed or did the research not mention enantiomers.

  In my view I feel that the formation of the correct enantiomers within the DNA is an important clue how abiogenesis occurs at an amino acid stereoisomer stage. I believe this because mainly the L-enantiomers are found in living things. I think that’s where the forming of living things from non living amino acid stereoisomers could be explained. But maybe it can't be.

  These are my novice beliefs which are completely unsubstantiated and was just wondering what your opinion of my theory is.
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

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  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  70wksfyrs

  Hmmm ....could that not be said of any group? I have noticed with teachers, policeman, social workers, conservationists, politicians that many are caring and respectful and others are blunt and harsh, and also a little impatient.

  You make a fair comment cantleave, sadly in my experience I cannot say the same of those professionals they have been blunt, rude, liars, inconsiderate, damaging, abusive and extremely impatient with the exception of conservationists, which I have had no personal experiences with.

  But on your train of thought the same could be said of any forum, lets add solicitors to your list, that forum was awful in my experience. I will never go back there again

  I have read a lot of what you have written including your story, so I would like you to know that in my opinion I like a lot of what you post, its funny, easy to understand and you have shown yourself to be helpful and caring. One thing that really struck me was that when you were an elder you made a decision about a young boy and he was df'd and that you felt guilty for making that choice to affect his whole family's life. Please correct me if I have got it a bit wrong.

  To get back to topic now,

  I think that musings over different types of atheist is a good topic. My view is people are different, atheists are different too, many have always been atheists and many converted. During the process of conversion, many would have changing beliefs before they have arrived at a firm belief. Some may well believe in a higher power of sorts, but not God.

  Are there many commenting in this thread that have had changing beliefs until they arrived at a firm belief?
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  Are we alone?

  by Xanthippe in

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  the title of this thread is the title of a chapter in the book by richard dawkins that i'm really enjoying in spite of or perhaps because of it having been written for young people.

  i thought i would share a couple of paragraphs on his theories of the kind of bodies aliens on other planets might have :-.

  'let's exercise our imaginations a bit more.

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  70wksfyrs

  Great thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep it going guys.....

  I cant understand why many are disagreeig with space madness' chemical knowledge, the arguments in my view are unsubstantiated.

  Space Madness - I agree with your knowlege of atoms. So glad I didn't waste time checking links of atomic models.
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

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  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  70wksfyrs

  As I only learned TTATT recently, I think the OP (I presume this stands for Opening Post) is very interesting. I am still, learning and watching how theists and atheists interact. I have observed they are all very different very interesting and would like to observe and learn more before start a topic about my beliefs.

  Many are caring and respectful and others are blunt and harsh, and also a little impatient.
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  No named witness wants me to come back into truth but won't leave contact details

  by usualusername in

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  late last night i received the following message from the contact form on my website.

  this message was sent from the contact form on the today's pa website.

  organisation:.

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  70wksfyrs

  I think it's someone who cares deeply, but is heavily indoctrinated and scared. They are probably from the KH where you last served expecting you to come in.

  We are having a CO visit this week. His first talk was about having an odbedient heart, and then closed his talk with the Nov wt quote

  "At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."

  He said blah blah blah Armageddon is around the corner.......yawn yawn yawn........the UN this that and the other.....yadda yadda yadda (with a convincing and charasmatic CO voice)

  So this person might be hyped up with renewed zeal and thinks you are going to die soon if you dont go to the KH, because you will prove to have a disobedient heart.

  You are disobeying the GB and you need to listen, obey and be blessed!!!!!!
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  Do you sense and underlying serenity ?

  by Phizzy in

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  going forward from my other thread, on the unhappiness of jw's, and thanks for your contributions to that, do you sense the opposite with xjw's ?.

  not simply the happiness that we all exude, external and obvious, but an underlying serenity.. all that i have met face to face, and as far as i can tell those that are on here, have a certain serenity, due i think in the main to having the conviction that our leaving was the very best of decisions.. yes, we still have our daily struggles, perhaps the frustrations of trying to free loved ones, health problems, financial difficulties, personality faults of our own we are working on, any or all of these plus ones i haven't mentioned.. and yet i detect a peace, and contentment, that comes from being the real "you", no longer having to put on the cult personality, no longer having to suffer the noise of cognitive dissonance, no longer feeling we are not "doing enough".. that inner peace is what makes you all such lovely people..

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  70wksfyrs

  I think I am more peaceful at the fact I can explain why judicial committees are unjust. I suppose that is what cognitive dissonance is, that I truly believed JC'c are conducted under the guidance of holy spirit yet I was told I was not repentant.

  After I did not believe holy spirit guided my JC I was calm about this point. Having said this I have lost most of my so called friends, I am a newbie to TTATT so I am angry and upset with them for abandoning me, and I am angry and upset I have to talk to loved ones and family in a cloak and dagger manner, so they don't get unjustly d'fd.

  So, on the whole, no I am not serene at all. I am angry, isolated and upset. I have only learned TTATT six months ago so it may improve once I engage in the community, which hasn't worked yet, after strenuous efforts. I am probably a weirdo desperate for human contact and come over too needy. Someone actually told me I was too needy