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  TV.JW.ORG is coming!

  by Oubliette in

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  free2Bme13

  Only the watchtower could pull off something this watchtarded. So many will see the irony of this corny nonsense and leave the cult.
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  "New Light" Annual Meeting Oct 2013" Olive Branch Extended To Apostates and Unfaithful JWs.

  by AuntConnie in

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  it's absurd to think jehovah's slave should take heed or listen to advice from the ever growing mob leaving the organization.

  still, it's your problem you can't keep pace with our present truth as we continue to evolve.

  why should we listen to the the vast army of apostates and evil slaves, they don't want a gente, more humble org, they need to fight fire with fire!

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  You know aunt Connie, maybe YOU shouldn't be posting on an apostate site if you're a future CO's wife. Did you think of that? Furthermore, apostates don't need or want a clean slate from the org. We have realized them to be the high-mind control organization that they are. We don't need forgiveness of our sins in order to be whole. It's quite liberating to realize. If anything the GB needs a clean slate for the lies they've perpetuated and families they have ruined. Next time you want to get on your soapbox, share it with your car group. Or are you afraid you'll be labeled an apostate and your prominence will be ruined? Frankly, you deserve to be a CO's wife; having to be in a different congregation every week where everyone has their own cliques and you're not included.
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  *Facepalm* What do you make of this cultish email I just got from my JW friend? What do I say to her?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  a bit of background: she is a sweet sister who has hard a really hard life: mum killed in an accident when she was young while once-an-elder dad was off having an affair after having been released from jail after serving time as a pedophile; she spent months in hospital after the accident which killed her mother; brothers jailed as pedos, ex husband left her cold with their 6 month old son- she's had a tough life and is a really sweet lady.

  she's intelligent, caring, forgiving and articulate.

  far too good for jws.. she 'brought me into the truth' as they say, and as such we've always had a pretty good bond.. now, after the gossip/slander fiasco of another so-called friend running around telling everyone i'm an apostate and not to talk to me, i unfriended my jw friends from facebook with an explanation.

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  It's sad when all they have to offer you is a study, rehashing the same old thing over again As they spout the same ol' party lines.

  It's not easy trying to stay friends with someone who's still in. It's a tough line to walk. When I left I closed down my Facebook account because I couldn't stand listening to them go on about how wonderful the organization is, where else do you find such loving people. I also ignored most txts because I really didn't want to engage in a conversation, knowing that if I said anything critical I would be hauled to the elders. So now my only friends are the lovely people I work with but at least they like the real me and don't judge our friendship on whether I'm at the meetings.

  Good luck with the decision you make. It's not easy figuring out how to respond to people.
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  To all the die hard JW parents that still believe it.

  by tootired2care in

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  you know 2014 is almost upon us, and really how can anyone honestly excuse this farse of religion anymore!?.

  this is for all of you die hard jw's and parents that continue to make your childrens lives hell who try gracefully to to leave this cult.

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  That is Hilarious! Wish I could send it to a few people I know.
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  Letter From My Mother: Moire insane Watchtower Rhetoric

  by confusedandalone in

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  2. experiences

  again, i apologize to any who think i may be going overboard posting these letters, but i am hoping that i can help prepare others for the type of bombardment that they may face when dealing with mentally diseased witness parents who have no idea just how much control this cult has over them:.

  august 19, 2013. dear <my name removed> & <my wifes name removed>, .

  i had the privilege of attending the convention this weekend for a second time and i must say that i enjoyed it more than the first.

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  A thyroid imbalance *facepalm*. I think that really takes the cake for irrational thinking. And she alleges you are being unreasonable.

  I don't understand how she can say she didn't insult your wife's family. She pretty much said they weren't as good as she is.

  I feel for you. Glad you have your wife as support thru this. Your mom sounds about as unreasonable as my mother in law so I get how impossible it is to have a reasonable conversation with them.

  Please continue posting. It's therapeutic for you and for others of us to know we're not alone in dealing with the insanity to JW mind control.
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  The New Diary of Winston Smith

  by WinstonSmith in

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  we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

  fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

  i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

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  Hi Winston,

  My husband showed me your DA letter, and after reading it I decided to read your thread to get the whole story. It's taken my several days, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. We have toyed with whether to DA or just stay inactive. It's a tough decision because on one hand the line in the sand is appealing, but on the other hand it's playing by their rules which we're done with. It's such a personal decision and only time will tell what course will be best or necessary for us and so many others who have left.

  I love your artful use of questions. There's no better way to reason with someone than to have them come to their own conclusions.

  I so agree with you on the phrase "miss you." It is so empty and never followed up with any real action. The only times elders come to our door is to leave an invitation to the memorial or convention with the words "we miss you." These are the same ones that didn't pay us an ounce of interest when we sat next to them at the hall, so their words really do sound hollow.

  It's always amazing to see the witness gossip grapevine snap in to action. We've had family gossip about us behind our backs without so much as a phone call to us to see whether what they're saying is actually true.

  On the positive side, one family member we told that we were no longer going to meetings responded much like your mother, acknowledged they too have issues with WT and they made a point of saying that they were glad my husband and I left together. No shunning whatsoever.

  It's always nice to read a well-written story that gives a good example of leaving and dealing with those left behind. Hopefully it gives courage to those who may be standing at an intersection. I love your Dr. Seuss quote. It was in one of my magazine subscriptions years ago and I cut it out and put it on my fridge where it still lives.

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  hello. pls help. getting married soon. afraid i won't be happy because wtbts said so.

  by seasickbumblebee in

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  alshello.

  i'm a practicing jw.

  finally decided to create an account to see whether you could all help me.. so i am engaged to this wonderful wonderful man and in three months time we'll be married.

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  The society has interpreted uncleanness to mean what they want it to and in the process make people unsure about where they stand in "God's" eyes. People who are unsure will do more to alleviate their consciences. In Listener's post of the 2006 article it says uncleaness can be greedy. So god has given us a sexual desire but then we're greedy when we act on it? Doesn't make sense.

  One of the posters commented on how King David confessed to Jehovah, not a body of men. A judicial committe is the witnesses' equivalent of confessing to a priest. They have no right to know our actions.

  Follow the advice of people on this board and investigate any of your doubts about the watchtower before you become more committed to living your life in a way you may not agree with. It's easier to break an engagement than get a divore.

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  Former Longtime Elder- Met up with a Former CO,DO

  by James Jackson in

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  at a convention recently, i met with don wallace, a former co and do.

  he told me he came off the road 6 years ago and is living in scottsboro al.

  him and his wife are in their late 70's.

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  We had friends that wanted to be in the circuit work but had a fair amount of money that they couldn't have in their name if they became CO so they were going to put it in the mom's name but still have access to it so the wife could continue to buy her designer shoes. There's always a way around rules.
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  facebook post

  by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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  witness posted this earlier.

  i almost threw up, seriously.

  [url=http://s1334.photobucket.com/user/msgrowinggirl20/media/65561_390195644411563_941228303_n_zps662482ca.jpg.html][img]http://i1334.photobucket.com/albums/w647/msgrowinggirl20/65561_390195644411563_941228303_n_zps662482ca.jpg[/img][/url]

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  I had a friend email me that article quite a few years ago. I guess they have nothing new and have to recirculatec the same thing to make themselves feel good. My husband and i were discussing how it's always brought up at conventions in the concluding talk about how clean the witnesses leave the stadium. I would love to know what they really say.
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  Another Suicide

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  there wouldn't have been any good way to hear the news i suppose.

  it's just so strange to recall the conversation yesterday.

  my "still in" parents are with me and my inactive sister having a pleasant conversation.

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  free2Bme13

  I'm so sorry to hear about your friend Billy. For as much as we lose people in our lives I always feel at a loss as to what to say. It's hard to lose someone, but especially hard when they were in enough pain to take their own life. Please don't beat yourself up; we are not responsible for what other people do. I hope you have some close friends you can lean on.

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  BTW, I always enjoy your posts. They seem to bring a much needed humor and laugh to the forum :)