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  Circuit Leasing selling on JW.ORG ????

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
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  so i was poking around jw.org a lil recently...... noticed this advertisement was still present in the 'privileged' section (ie you gotta have login access).

  this was posted on jw.org a little over a year ago (as shown in pic) but since it is still viewable......figured it is fair-game for jwn fodder.

  thoughts?????.

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  so can i advertise my used car on kh bulletin board?
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  Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.

  i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .

  last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.

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  *** w08 11/1 p. 28 Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe That They Are the Only Ones Who Will Be Saved? ***
  Our Readers Ask
  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe That They Are the Only Ones Who Will Be Saved?

  Jehovah’s Witnesses think that they have found the true religion. If they did not think so, they would change their beliefs. Like adherents of many religious faiths, Jehovah’s Witnesses hope to be saved. However, they also believe that it is not their job to judge who will be saved. Ultimately, God is the Judge. He decides.—Isaiah 33:22.

  God’s Word reveals that those who would be saved must not only want salvation but also cooperate with the Savior. To illustrate: Suppose that a hiker becomes lost in a wilderness. He desperately wants to find his way out. Will he perish, or will he survive? The outcome depends on the way he responds to help. Out of pride, he may refuse the help of a rescuer, or savior. On the other hand, he could humbly accept help and reach safety.
  In a similar way, salvation belongs to those who cooperate with mankind’s Rescuer, Jehovah God. Salvation is a gift from God, yet not all people will attain it. God’s Son, Jesus, said: “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.”—Matthew 7:21.

  Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that God saves only those who exercise faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus and closely follow Jesus’ teachings. (Acts 4:10-12) Consider three important requirements for salvation that are revealed in God’s Word.

  (1) “By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves,” Jesus told his companions. (John 13:35) Jesus’ own example of giving his life in behalf of others stressed the importance of love. Those who love others are demonstrating a quality vital for salvation.
  (2) “I have made your name known to them,” said Jesus in prayer to his Father. (John 17:26) Jesus knew how important God’s personal name, Jehovah, was to his Father. Jesus prayed for his Father’s name to “be sanctified.” (Matthew 6:9) Sanctifying God’s name includes knowing that name and treating it as important and holy. Like Jesus, those seeking salvation need to use God’s name. They also need to teach others about God’s name and qualities. (Matthew 28:19, 20) In fact, only those calling on God’s name will be saved.—Romans 10:13.

  (3) “My kingdom is no part of this world,” Jesus said to Pontius Pilate. (John 18:36) Few today demonstrate faith in God’s Kingdom, or government, of which Jesus is King. Instead, they place their trust in human institutions. By contrast, those who will be saved loyally support God’s Kingdom and teach others about how it will liberate all faithful mankind.—Matthew 4:17.

  After learning some of the requirements for salvation, Jesus’ disciples said: “Who possibly can be saved?” Jesus answered: “The things impossible with men are possible with God.” (Luke 18:18-30) Jehovah’s Witnesses diligently try to meet these requirements for salvation. They also work hard to help others to be saved.
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  Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.

  i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .

  last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.

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  *** rs p. 47 - p. 48 Armageddon ***
  What will happen to young children at Armageddon?

  The Bible does not directly answer that question, and we are not the judges. However, the Bible does show that God views the young children of true Christians as “holy.” (1 Cor. 7:14) It also reveals that in times past when God destroyed the wicked he likewise destroyed their little ones. (Num. 16:27, 32; Ezek. 9:6) God does not want anyone to be destroyed, so he is having a warning sounded now to benefit both parents and children. Would it not be wise for parents to pursue a course that would result in their children being looked on with favor by God both now and at Armageddon?
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  Active JW understands flaws in WTS doctrine but believes in the Bible

  by flamegrilled in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps this is a common topic for newbies on the site, but i have browsed for a while and not seen this exactly answered.. as an active jw who understands the flaws in wts doctrine, but believes in the bible, how do i identify a form of worship that meets all the criterea:.

  1) by this all will know you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves (john 13:35).

  sure i know that not all jws do this, and that people from other religions or non-religious people do this also, but as an official doctrine jws will not kill one another in war, and in general there is a genuine effort to exercise "agape" love not widely found in the world at large.. 2) preach the good news.

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  So you still believe in the Bible and think Jehovah's Witnesses have some of the basics right. But you wonder if there is something better out there that does not have all the crap along with it. I think yours is a quest for the fountain of youth. Any organization with humans involved will inevitably be encumbered by the opinions of those at the top. The governing body would like us to think that Jehovah's Witnesses are in exception to this rule but we really are not. I was baptized about 40 years ago and currently inactive though I still attend meetings. There are a number of things I don't agree with but like you have not found a better option. Ancient Israel and first century Christianity also had plenty of problems but apparently were still acceptable to Jehovah. Perhaps Jehovah's Witnesses are too.
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  Do you know anybody that got reinstated really fast after being df'd?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was reading one of the posts here that 15 year old was df'd but he got reinstated in 5 months.

  do you know of any case that someone got reinstated pretty fast after being df'd?.

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  The man who is the prototypical case in 1 & 2 Corinthians
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  Acceptable and unacceptable dress for visiting Bethel

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came across this on another thread with pictures/photos ,is this for real ?

  i couldnt beleive my eyes or ears?.

  the control that this organization has over it`s members... is ..is ... well it`s a cult !!

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  James 2:1-4

  1 My brothers, YOU are not holding the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, our glory, with acts of favoritism, are YOU ? 2 For, if a man with gold rings on his fingers and in splendid clothing enters into a gathering of YOU , but a poor [man] in filthy clothing also enters, 3 yet YOU look with favor upon the one wearing the splendid clothing and say: “You take this seat here in a fine place,” and YOU say to the poor one: “You keep standing,” or: “Take that seat there under my footstool,” 4 YOU have class distinctions among yourselves and YOU have become judges rendering wicked decisions, is that not so?

  1 Samuel 16:7

  7 But Jehovah said to Samuel: “Do not look at his appearance and at the height of his stature, for I have rejected him. For not the way man sees [is the way God sees], because mere man sees what appears to the eyes; but as for Jehovah, he sees what the heart is.”
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  Dec 15th WT: "Be like Solomon and don't go to university / don't be like Solomon and join a sports team!"

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thanks to 'gayle' for bringing our attention to the fact that the december 15th watchtower has now been uploaded to jw.org.

  it doesn't take long to reach the first juicy bit on pages 8 and 9, this time regarding higher education:.

  it would be good to ask, am i taking to heart solomons example of treasuring divine wisdom?

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  Odd group there: marriage choice, sports, tax cheats and taking the 5th. They left out chewing gum in the kingdom hall?
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  Elder Involvement — Graphic … pages 4-6

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  elder involvement graphic presentation pages 4-6. .

  today i added to my blog pages 4-6 of the 13-page submission by a doctor of psychology that is a watchtower appointed elder.

  he had ideas about elder involvement with jehovahs witnesses suffering mental illness, and particularly victims of child abuse, and thought it best to share these with watchtower.

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  did the writer geta response from WT?
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  Elder Involvement — Graphic Presentation

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  elder involvement graphic presentation.

  today i uploaded a new article to my blog that begins publishing a 13-page submission by a doctor of psychology that is a watchtower appointed elder.

  he had ideas about elder involvement with jehovahs witnesses suffering mental illness, and particularly victims of child abuse, and thought it best to share these with watchtower.

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  excellent
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  June Service Meeting part: Marriage, separation and divorce

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm curious as to why this is a national topic for a service meeting part?

  has anyone any thoughts on this?.

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  our speaker said better to go to elders for counseling than worldly therapists

  his own idea or part of material?