Posts by rebel

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

I am NOT saying it is wrong to celebrate Christmas, birthdays or whatever. I really don't know what they are about - I spent so many years being told what was right and wrong, I never really looked in to these subjects for myself. What I am saying is, if I felt that they were harmless fun and that I was being stifled by being a JW, then I would probably start celebrating them too. However, if I felt they were unscriptural and it botherd my conscience to take part, I wouldn't get involved. I certainly WOULD NOT take part just to prove a point to other people.

It's the same with drink, drugs etc. I wouldn't want to start abusing various substances just becasue I can. That's not a reason in my book. I know people take things for various reasons. I hit the bottle big time many years ago, whilst I was still a JW, simply to blot something horrific out of my life. It didn't work and I stopped drinking eventually. The comment by one elder that I would have been stoned to death if I had lived in Moses day didn't help much! But my point is, I wouldn't want to start taking anything, make myself sick, ruin my health etc, just to get back at a bunch of JWs. They have done enough damage - why would I want to let them harm me any more?

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

rebel

Really interesting comments.

My friend who I mentioned earlier was the one that moved in with a young guy. He was a real rat, playing around, using her, sponging off her etc, yet she didn't do anything even though she knew what he was like - it was as if she was punishing herself or something. And didn't the elders and anybody else who would listen have a field day! They came out with all the usual "I told you what would happen when you leave" etc. She made herself ill, started taking drugs, had her younger daughter taken off her by social services. I made it my business because she is my friend and I care about her. I don't poke my nose into other people's business normally. I was so annoyed at the comments everyone made - nobody went to help her (of course - she was DFed and 'untouchable') and now that she has sorted her life out, she really regrets it.

Also, the couple that went mad over Christmas, when I met them and asked them about this, they still didn't believe it was Christ's birthday and still thought it was a load of pagan mumbo-jumbo (their words). I don't know whether it is or not - I have always liked the magical feel of Christmas, the lights etc (reminds me of my chidlhood), but the point is, they were doing if purely for show, so that when JWs came by, they would see their house (and garage, and garden, and pavement outside) all lit up. She said she wanted to give the JWs an eyeful (me included at the time) which I thought was stupid. I don't have to harm myself or betray my beliefs to prove a point to anyone.

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

rebel

Riz,

Thanks - I hadn't thought of that

xxR

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WTO cover up of dangers of orange juice

by spinner in

in 1993 i stumbled upon the following in " nutritional influence on health", by dr. m. werback, ucla school of medicine and gave it to the wto, dr. carlton, chief of staff wallkill infirmary :.

ingestion of 100 grams of orange juice significantly decreased the phagocytic index in humans.. .

the study went on (in lay terms): after 5 hours of drinking orange juice, control subjects still showed immune cells (that engulf and digest bacteria ) had not gained original speed of activity.. orange juice increases the chance of infection.

rebel

I never take much notice of these warnings.

Over the past couple of years, according to the Dept of Health, the following are bad for you:

Eggs, milk, yoghurt, fried food, grilled food, baked food (Do we just eat everything raw?), butter, margarine, low-fat spreads, red meat, white meat, hard cheese.....the list goes on.

I just eat and drink what tastes good!

xxR

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

rebel

Maybe the title of my post should have been worded differently. What I am trying to say is, I hate to see those that leave give those still in the organisation a reason to gossip. They love it! They come out with "...dog rolling in own vomit..." etc, and I am sick of hearing it. I just wish that those who have such strength to stand up to being DFed or DAed often go on to hurt themselves when they are on the brink of real freedom and have the chance of finding out how good life can be.

I never meant to offend anyone - sorry if I did

xxR

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

rebel

Tashawaa,

I'm not saying all ex-JWs are wacko - just that some go overboard when they leave. I know there are weird people in all walks of life and religions - it just seems sad that some really hurt themselves when they leave just when they are on the brink of really finding out the truth. One who did this was a real friend of mine (and still is - I never stopped talking to her when she was DFed) and she made herself really ill for no reason that I could think of, other than, in her words, "getting even with everyone"

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

rebel

Islandwoman & JT,

I agree with you - I think the pressure causes some to explode when they leave and I don't want to do that.

JT - I was 40 this year and it really is the year my life began, so the old adage that life begins at 40 is true for me!

I have 4 children aged 24, 22 and 20. My fourth child died when she was 5 but I still say I have 4 children because she is and always will be alive to me.

xxR

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

rebel

I'm not saying all who leave are weird - please don't think I mean that - it's just that many I know who have left seem to do things that make them really unhappy - even to the extent of harming themselves. I know I feel pretty screwed up and I am not sure whether I am just a bit odd by nature or whether it is the years I spent in this organisation.

I should feel really happy now that I know that my instincts were correct. Instead I feel flat and I probably would do some pretty weird things now if it wasn't for trying to set a good example to my family. Also, it would give the elders something to talk about and I don't want to give them the satisfaction. They are always saying that is you leave, you will really go off the rails and I don't want that. I hate to see ex-JWs doing things like that and the JWs all sniggering about them.

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

rebel

I don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if I do.

I have often wondered why some people that leave the WT organisation go really weird. There is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago. Within days of DAing, they were putting up Christmas decorations all over the place - their house was the most decorated in town! Just because you leave the organisation, it doesn't automatically make some of the teachings wrong. If you believed Christmas was pagan a few months ago, why the big change? It isn't that I think Chrstmas is wrong, but these people really went over the top. What were they trying to prove?

I also know another sister who was DFed - she started taking drugs, going out to night clubs, and in the end was admitted to hospital after an overdose. A young couple I knew went really weird - the husband joined this weird culty movement and went off with another woman. She moved in with a guy 15 years younger than her daughter!

I can think of many other examples. Is it because we were so oppressed that, once free, we go beserk? I hope I don't go like that - the freedom after all those years of oppression does seem very tempting to me. Is it just that I have come across these cases and this isn't a common way to behave once you leave, or is it quite common?

Edited by - Rebel on 13 December 2002 20:17:47

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Tell about the good JWs

by Skeptic in

jw
friends

most of the jws i met were sincere people.

not perfect, i have my horror stories too, but most were decent people.

i am not discounting the horrible things i hear on this forum.

rebel

I suppose that is true - they can be kind only to those in the org - but there are those that will do good for others outside the org too. I know they are thin on the ground but they are there. It's like I said - they get all the goodness sucked out of them - I think that most that come into the org as adults really change - they seem to be a shadow of their former self - a bit like apparitions. Their only hope is to break free some day.