Posts by scotsman

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I am DF'd now... Decisions, decisions...

by Comatose in

so i was df'd a couple weeks ago.

i live in a place where i didn't really have new friends at the kh, so my day to day life isn't changing.

i'm just me living life like i was 2 weeks ago and 2 years ago.

scotsman

I'd agree that a good relationship with grandparents can be good for kids but a highly conditional relationship with grandparents who shun a parent doesn't sound... healthy. If you are going to police their relationship that is going to have a toll on you and you're well being as a parent is far more important than a relationship with grandparents.

half my grandparents died before I was born, it did me no damage: it's great for grandparents to see their grandchildren but I'm not convinced it's as important the other way (apologies for offending grandparents!).

Good luck navigating this, it's not easy, but look out for yourself.

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I am DF'd now... Decisions, decisions...

by Comatose in

so i was df'd a couple weeks ago.

i live in a place where i didn't really have new friends at the kh, so my day to day life isn't changing.

i'm just me living life like i was 2 weeks ago and 2 years ago.

scotsman

Can I ask why you think the relationship between your daughter and her grandparents is so important?

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Any gay exJW's?

by Trapped in JW land in

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was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?

and also, how did you end up leaving?.

scotsman

Ha, ohiocowboy, my partner and I have been together 12 yrs this week too! Congratulations.

88JM I had an angry phase but it had to pass for the JWs to have been part of my life without defining my life. Lost my family and lifetime of friends but I'd do it all again just a bit earlier.

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Casual sexism in Watchtower literature

by slimboyfat in

i notice the sexist language of the watchtower a lot more these days.

is it on the increase or am i simply more tuned into to noticing it now?

for example this statement in the june kingdom ministry:.

scotsman

lol, there's absolutely no *casual* sexism in the WTBTS literature as it's all intended.

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Christianity and the Parental Rejection of LGBT Youth

by scotsman in

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been a while since i've been on here and it's nice to see the lgbt topics still burn the brightest.. the ali forney centre support lgbt kids who are rejected by their religious parents and these videos will no doubt mirror the sad experiences of some of us gay jws..

scotsman

Been a while since I've been on here and it's nice to see the LGBT topics still burn the brightest.

The Ali Forney Centre support LGBT kids who are rejected by their religious parents and these videos will no doubt mirror the sad experiences of some of us gay JWs.

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14 months after printing the "Steve and Selma" article, guess what the Society's latest Awake is about...

by cedars in

you guessed it.... .

http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&issue=201304&output=html&pub=g&langwritten=e&option=trgchlzrqvnyvrxf&txtcmslang=e.

cedars.

scotsman

Cedars, I'd suggest that your letter goes to Woman's Aid as well as Refuge.

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Hello to everyone - new member from Scotland - just registered and wanted to introduce myself

by 88JM in

greetings to you all from scotland!

it's nice to finally be able to say hello to you all, having been a long time reader of the forum.. i put off signing up as i didn't feel i had much to contribute, but if i'm honest, seeing atlantis' post about confidential information pushed me into it.. i hope i can get round to writing my story - i always enjoy reading others and it never ceases to amaze me how many have had similar experiences.. so there goes my first post!.

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scotsman

Hello 88JM, if you want to have a chat with another ex JW LGB Scot feel free to message.

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Questions about disfellowshipping and 'non-sanctioned' shunning

by Steve_C in

basically, i have a couple of questions about the current rules regarding disfellowshipping and shunning.

by current i mean since 1999.. sorry, but i have to put a bit of my history to clarify my situation.. i was a born-in who was baptized in 1983. got married to a sister in 1984. then the kids came.

by the mid-1990s my wife and i had become increasingly irregular, so that by 1999 we were both inactive and only went to the memorial and conventions.. in 1999 i committed adultery, confessed to the elders, and had a judicial committee.

scotsman

Sounds a familiarly sad story. I'm gay but not dfed or daed, out 10 yrs and when my brother discovered I was gay he said he loved me but could be friends with me and that was that. Occasionally see my mother but won't be attending her funeral for similar reasons to you, plus think I would probably experience more grief over seeing people who cut me out of their lives after 30 yrs than the death of my mother.

Hope you're not feeling too blue, and it's great you've maintained a relationship with your kids.

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Is The WTBTS' View Of Homosexuality Softening?

by JW GoneBad in

or at least the public may be given the impression that jws and the wtbts are fair minded and do not discriminate against the homosexual lifestyle.

check out this quote from the nov 1, 2011 watchtower (public edition).

the article on page 4 is entitled 'ten questions about sex answered'.. question 8: does god approve of homosexuality?.

scotsman

Well if it is softening they have forgotten to tell any of my family and former friends. Not heard a peep out of 99% them in 8 years. I'm not disfellowshipped, just a"practicing" gay (although I probably now qualify as "professional/expert").

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Is homosexuality ever justifiable? I say YES!!!

by TimothyT in

in the january 2012 awake, pages 28-29 there is another article about homosexuality.. .

the writers argue that genetics, the environment, and sexual abuse do not justify homosexuality.

the bible clearly states that homosexuality is wrong and is an abhorrent sin.

scotsman

In a 14 day period TimothyT started 9 threads only 3 of which were in relation to homosexuality and faith/church/Watchtower, hardly "a constant stream of Gay-Promotion".

You (plural) do appear to have shut him down which is unfortunate as the chronicling of his struggle to reconcile faith and sexuality may have been helpful to others, as Monkey's far more extrovert and sexualised account has been.

If you don't want to read about homosexuality, don't read the thread that has it in the title.

On Saturday morning a 28 yr old man was found dead on the edge of a small former mining town in Scotland having been burnt and severely beaten. He was also gay. At present the police are trying to say it possibly wasn't a homophobic attack but the community is rife with rumour that it is. His name was Stuart Walker.

Will anyone reading this see any connection between closing down discussions on homosexuality and this crime? I imagine they will refuse to see it But in my nearly 10 yrs on here I have repeatedly seen it tolerated less than other issues and gay members warned to 'pipe down' about the subject.

It makes me very very sad.