Posts by Jen2013

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No witness revolution expected? It's going on already!

by Gorbatchov in

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this night i was a few hours awake and thinking again about our witness believe.

and i saw the light!!.

me and many others here at jwd/jwn do not expect any witness revolution and real change.. but i think we completely miss some points!.

Jen2013

"Hours spent "preaching" goes up, up, up, yet the number of new baptisms goes down, down, down."

I always wonder why the preaching is so important for Yahweh (Jehovah)? Think of Sodom for example. As long as there is a man (in this story and time it was Lot) with his two daughters left and a cave where you can get drunk and have fun with your two daughters - why bother destroying all the others? The planet will soon be filled again. This time of course with holy people! By the way, in the other fantasy story, the one of Noah, Noah was found somewhere lying naked and drunk. Bad, bad boys, who Yahweh has chosen to fill up the planet again.

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Does The WTBTS Use Spies To Find The Rebellious?

by Cold Steel in

some people are outspoken critics of the society even while being part of it.

they may do this because of their families or because they have doubts about their doubts.

have you heard any examples of elders sending people forth to ferret out doubters and people who may spread discontent?

Jen2013

I've read here for only about a week now. But I was told that the Watchtower has a doctrine called "Watchtower Theocratic War doctrine" or "Theocratic Warfare or War Strategy". I am not very attracted to and by war strategies and a doctrine with a title like that, makes me really suspicious of the Watchtower Management and of its followers too. A company that calls itself a Watchtower company? As far as I know most watchtowers refer to wartime.

Is it the conspiracy fantasy virus with which the Watchtower infects the brains and hearts of gullible people? Is it the big war game of the Watchtower against all others, against the so called worldly people who of course are all so wicked, and the followers of the Watchtower who of course are all so holy and chosen? The Watchtower adopted - as their business strategy - playing the fantasy script of Moses. The Watchtower will lead you in the promised land, their fantasy land and there they also keep a close watch on you. You will always be watched, you will always be controlled.

Why do they build these publishing facilities all over the world instead of hospitals, schools and social facilities? Why? If their fantasy war of the end is right around the corner, why is there such a need for further Watchtower companies printing magazines and books, which no one needs after (*) their fantasy war? Because it is a fantasy, their fantasy virus. And the followers are infected. This so bad and very, very sad!

(*) after and before and of course have never been necessary for anything

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Do you say Hi? Hello? Hey?

by Iamallcool in

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Jen2013

Lamallcool, why do you need to know that? What is it good for? Really strange question.

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Elders and former elders: Judicial cases how often?

by A question in

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how many judicial cases did you serve on, in how many years as an elder?

feel free to talk about the cases too..

Jen2013

I also have some questions. I would like to know if there is a psychological support or help group for those Witnesses who lost family members due to not allowing them blood transfusions or due to refusing blood transfusions. How does the Watchtower support those people who lost a kid or a baby? That is such a pain to loose a loved one because of this rule. I wonder how life can go on, after such a loss? I wonder how life can go on, after parents are deciding for their child to not get a life supporting blood transfusion? Are there any psychological help groups that are qualified and funded by the Watchtower? Has it for example happened that a young kid lost its only parent and became an orphan? If so, who supports the kid? The Watchtower or the wicked worldly people? I just wonder how those people manage to live their life after such a forced death of family members and friends? Does the Watchtower in general take part in some sort of funded social and caring activities, as other churches do? If not, they should not talk all the time of other people outside the Watchtower as being "the wicked wordly people", because those wordly people are those who care.

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JULY 15th Study Watchtower - NEW LIGHT IS FANTASY

by The Searcher in

the july 15 study watchtower uses all 4 study articles to try to inculcate into every witnesses' mind that the governing body is indisputably god's sole channel of communication on earth.

to do so, it uses a multitude of scriptures along with seriously flawed un-inspired reasoning.

the foundation stone of this watchtower's blatant agenda is the claim that when jesus used only a few to dispense the physical food to the many, he was setting a principle which would be applied to the distribution of spiritual food after he returned to heaven.

Jen2013

If I was a Witness I would probably call the Governing Body and ask: "Who of you guys made that one up".

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Quick update on sharing TTATT with my friend

by Gojira_101 in

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yesterday morning i got a message from my friend, the one i shared ttatt with last week and she wanted to meet for coffee.

this is the story/friend i'm referring to http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/251494/1/ha-take-that-watchtower-one-less-borg-for-you.. i was really nervous because since our initial visit she had told me that two of her other jw friends wanted to talk to me.

after a little more prodding she admitted that her friends didn't accept what their own wt said about god's name and they wanted to talk to me to "bring me back to the truth.".

Jen2013

*lost*, because it worked for you to wake up, you think it might work for others too, to wake up. You are right. Your given possibility to wake up is proven now. I hope you go on with your research on the je-hova Ba'al thing as it is one possibility of many to wake up and I am sure it works for others too.

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Why do they call it the New World Translation?

by Tameria2001 in

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does anyone know why the watchtower named their bible the new world translation of the holy scriptures?

it's been awhile since i have even had any of their books in my home, and most of the time i don't think about it.

i don't know why, but when i think of that title, the phrase new world order keeps popping up in my mind..

Jen2013

*lost*, yes that is totally apparent. The Watchtower Company is founded on deception and lies. I guess we all agree on that.

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Why do they call it the New World Translation?

by Tameria2001 in

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does anyone know why the watchtower named their bible the new world translation of the holy scriptures?

it's been awhile since i have even had any of their books in my home, and most of the time i don't think about it.

i don't know why, but when i think of that title, the phrase new world order keeps popping up in my mind..

Jen2013

It's all about the game of the Watchtower Company. They play it for so long now and the gullible Witnesses of the Watchtower take part in that game by accepting the rules of the Watchtower. I find this very strange.

The Watchtower, September 1, 1987, page 20: "The United Nations is actually a worldly confederacy against Jehovah God and his dedicated Witnesses on earth. It is really a conspiracy, with the worldly nations getting their heads together and scheming up what they may do against the visible organization of Jehovah God on earth...".

I don't know much about David Icke. Just googled with search words like "jehovahs witnesses mason masonry illuminati" and got finally to the thread I mentioned above.

The big conspirary that the Watchtower Company invented can be found througout their literature. I just gave one example above.

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Why do they call it the New World Translation?

by Tameria2001 in

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does anyone know why the watchtower named their bible the new world translation of the holy scriptures?

it's been awhile since i have even had any of their books in my home, and most of the time i don't think about it.

i don't know why, but when i think of that title, the phrase new world order keeps popping up in my mind..

Jen2013

Relating to "New World" I found an interesting thread. Unfortunately not on this page, but it has to do with Jehovahs Witnesses and New World agenda. See link below.

Of course, even if it was so, Witnesses would not recognize it themselves. The development of a cult or any other religion takes many steps and is - years later - a mixture of many fairy-tales. The goals and purposes vary and are adaptable to the men who initiate cults, believes, religions, whatever. As long as people like to take part in such games and believe to get the promises with which the inventors tempt them, they try to win the game and just keep playing. As long as there are people who long for fairy-tales, there will always be people who make them up for them.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218924

But within the Watchtower Company the game got out of control with the rule of the blood transfusion. This game is not funny anymore. It killed so many people. I would not take part in it. Not even blindly. Control your Channel and the rules they invent.

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What will the JW religion be like in 2015?

by JimmyPage in

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over 100 years into the reign of christ and six more years of damage from the internet.

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what do you envision?.

Jen2013

Self-fulfilling prophecy: Gone!

Could be it takes a little bit longer.

Don't you know Humanity and Humanism is on the rise?