Had no idea. In fact I had no idea of anything other than what Wt told me. I have learnt more about that religion in 18 months since walking out of the religion than I ever did in 4 decades been a true believer. I didn't even know there was an issue with child abuse.
joe134cd
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Did you know about the organ transplant ban when you were a believer?
by Apognophos inback when i was learning ttatt, i was shocked to read on jwfacts about the organ transplant ban from 1967 to 1980. this was a large piece of evidence for me that the society could not be god's organization.
growing up as an earnest witness, and living near the headquarters, i knew a lot of the organization's embarrassing history, and it didn't faze me, but i'd never heard of this ban before, and it shocked me.
it's gotten me wondering why no one i know ever talks about it, when it must have affected many witnesses during that time (or were they getting transplants on the sly?
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Media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York
by Londo111 inhttp://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
see last item:.
"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".
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I hope it's brodcastec in high definition 1080p. I would hate for the occasion to be ruined by poor picture quality.
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Looks like ABC New York got the okay.
by truthseekeriam inhttp://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
12/19/2014order filed.
upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.
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I hope they broadcast in high definition. I would hate for the occasion to be ruined by poor picture quality. Hehe
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From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?
by Hidden-Window inas we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.
i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.
what about you?.
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joe134cd
10 absolutely. But I also believe there has to be an external factor that has to lead you to it. For instance I wasn't happy with the religion which in turn caused me to doubt. It wasn't until I got on the internet that the house of cards really began to fall. It just saddens me that it took me just under 40 years to realise it.
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Mario Marino. Dose anyone know him
by joe134cd init's a name i've been hearing a lot lately.
dose anyone personally know him.
are there any photos of what he looks like.
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It's a name I've been hearing a lot lately. Dose anyone personally know him. Are there any photos of what he looks like. I've searched both on here and on Google and nothing has come up with regard to him as a person just the quotes he made as a Wt lawyer. I'm just curious to know a little about the man behind the name.
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If conservative GB members died tonight, would there be real change?
by stillajwexelder ingoverning body members .
theodore jaracz,.
john barr, carey barber, albert schroeder,.
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joe134cd
Well the answer to that question 10 years latter is yes. The old guard has mostly died off. We're got a more liberal approach to the internet. Jw.org craze.dancing to Pharrell Williams songs in the KH. F&DS not anointed run the show now. These are just a few. Perhaps others can enlighten us with more.
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Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.
by Qcmbr inever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.
to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.
you can only paint sh*t so many ways.
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joe134cd
Jw daughter I'm just curious but how did you come to gave experience with both religions.
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Just 2 questions regarding the U.S. law around sex abuse
by joe134cd ini just have 2 questions regarding the u.s law around sex abuse.. (1) in this country it is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it.
one i can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression.
now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes i do realise that the wt would have the most to benefit by doing this.
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joe134cd
Trust me nothing would bring me greater delight than seeing the end of this religion. I think it's unfair that everyone is prepared to bad mouth Wt over offering the hush money. Yet we fail to acknowledge that a lawyer would of had to of presented it to the victim and given his recommendations on it, for the victim in turn agreeing to the terms and conditions. How do we know that the victim didn't want this in the first place. Yet despite this Wt is seen as been concealing evil when no one acknowledges that there are also 2 other parties involved. I believe all 3 parties are equally as guilty and innocent as each other for the terms and conditions and yet only one party is taking the majority of the blame.
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Can anyone tell me any narrative of having successfully avoided Baptism while being raised JW?
by SonoftheTrinity ini just worry for my stepkids about their future that way..
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joe134cd
If memory serves me correctly I think the reasoning given by Wt for baptizing at such a young age is that of Hezekiah. How he was a boy when he began to serve jehovah. Can anyone confirm.
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Just 2 questions regarding the U.S. law around sex abuse
by joe134cd ini just have 2 questions regarding the u.s law around sex abuse.. (1) in this country it is quite common for the events of a sex abuse trial, to have suppression orders placed on it.
one i can think of was when the offender was given name suppression because to identify the abuser would also mean identifying the victim, so hence both were given name suppression.
now with regard to the out of court settlements and gag orders by the watchtower, and yes i do realise that the wt would have the most to benefit by doing this.
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joe134cd
With all due respect to the victims of abuse. I noticed in a news conference Zaklin held for an abuse victim they came out all guns blazing at how wicked and unethical it had been by watchtower settling out of court with a gag order, and yet they failed to mention that they had brokered these very same settlements e.g remember there were also other victims in Gonzalo Campos case that were settled out of court as well. I also noticed to that the victims were only to willing under the circumstances to except the hush money. The point I'm making is shouldn't all 3 parties be equally responsible for the terms and conditions. If zaklin was so concerned about airing this to the public and letting the truth be told why didn't they refuse to take this to trial in the first place, when they knew that this was going to be the outcome.