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  Did Rutherford, Knorr or Franz have any kids?

  by kid-A in

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  does anybody know if any of these 3 had children?

  if so, did they remain in the wts and gain any positions of influence?.

  i always thought the wts had very little regard for children, not just the fact that they expect the dubs to sacrifice their childrens lives over the blood issue, but even the designs of the kingdom halls, no rooms or activities for children, just forced indoctrination.. could this stance be the result of a series of presidents who had no understanding or care for children themselves?

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  GaryBuss,

  LOL!
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  Here's PROOF that Charles Taze Russell Was NOT a Pennsylvania Freemason

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no, charles taze russell was not a pennsylvania freemason!.

  this is the answer i received in a letter: .

  "after a search of our records, we determined that the three russell's were not members of our organization.

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  I am still trying to figure out what the Egyptian/Masonic "winged disc" symbol was doing on the Stanley Theater.
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  If Armageddon comes and Jehovah kills you apostates

  by Smiles in

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  what would your last words be?

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  Tetra, Kwin,

  LOL!
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  "Stumbling"

  by tall penguin in

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  before i disassociated myself a month ago, i sent out a brief letter to a few of my friends to let them know about my choice and my reasons for so choosing.

  the responses varied.

  one of the common responses i received was "i'm sorry you were stumbled.

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  Penguin,

  I like what you said about the JW view of "stumbling". The WT teaches that stumbled persons are arrogant, stubborn and weak. That is not always true. Sometimes the stumbled person is right.

  Nice letter. I hope you get some respect from the people you send the letter to.
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  I can't believe they shunned me...

  by Smoky in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have any of you ever feel abandoned by "friends" because you dont associate (congregate) with them anymore?

  there is a couple of 'friends' that i haven't talked to for about a year, (because i dont go to the meetings).

  i dont have anything against them or the congregation.

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  Smoky,

  If they have the wedding at the Kingdom Hall you can walk right in and attend the wedding because the Kingdom Hall is open to the public. They cannot turn you away or lay a hand on you if you want to enter a Kingdom Hall and observe.

  You might have trouble trying to get into the wedding reception if the reception if off-site as they usually are. But you could try to attend the reception anyway.
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  New Awake blasts internet and newspapers.

  by integ in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the october 1st awake has a stern warning for "young ones" to stay away from witness websites.

  they could actually be apostates you are .

  talking to.

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  talking to. The article talks about the fact there are websites up that claim to be for Jehovahs Witnesses, but are really apostate websites in

  disguise. The article also warns of the dangers of ...NEWSPAPERS!!! Newspapers often do not tell the truth about things and we must use

  discernment in determining what is true and what may be lies.

  Integ, Good topic.

  People should use the same discernment when reading anything even WT literature. How can a youth or anyone else be sure that the REAL apostates and liars are not at the WT?

  Cygnus, I agree with you, the WT does practice "information control" and that should make an honest person curious about what the WT does not want people to know.
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  Bizarre JW father/son death

  by Smiles in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw friends informed me that this family are jws with the shea heights congregation in scottsdale arizona.

  i am told that the elder body there censored this family because the elder body suspected "demon problems".

  i am sure those elders feel justified now.

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  Rebel8,

  You are exactly right. I couldn't have said it better. That was the innocent purpose of the original post, contrary to extreme interpretations of the self-acclaimed "moderate" and "Hippie" views.

  The elders are incapable of providing professional emotional care evaluations and treatment, the elders are often even reckless in their methods. One must wonder what the elders think when the person they critically counsel dies.
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  Bizarre JW father/son death

  by Smiles in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw friends informed me that this family are jws with the shea heights congregation in scottsdale arizona.

  i am told that the elder body there censored this family because the elder body suspected "demon problems".

  i am sure those elders feel justified now.

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  The "demonic problems" were used as the reason for the family troubles over the last few years. The elders in this congregation censored this family for that specific reason and warned others in the congregation about the possibly of that demonic influence. That censorship caused further emotional problems for this family. If you do not think that the elders that made the "demonic problems" assertion now believe their assertions are validated, then you're kidding yourself.

  Also, as you will note in the official press release, this tragedy is not an opened and closed accident case. Contact the on-duty Criminal Investigator at (307) 344-7381.
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  Bizarre JW father/son death

  by Smiles in

  1. jw
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  jw friends informed me that this family are jws with the shea heights congregation in scottsdale arizona.

  i am told that the elder body there censored this family because the elder body suspected "demon problems".

  i am sure those elders feel justified now.

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  It is bizarre and suspicious anytime a father/son pair fall from a bridge to their deaths. The elders in their congregation should feel regret over the way they treated this family. WT elders should be held responsible anytime they mistreat people and cause emotional trauma.

  The elder body that mishandled this family will have a hard time now trying to look like the nice guys who care and comfort the family they originally censored.

  My friends knew the Speedie family and say they are good people.

  OldHippie, I do not think this tragedy is a scandal, if I did, this topic would have been placed in the Scandals & Coverup category. I did not blame anyone. And I am not making fun of the deaths. How dare you suggest that.

  If this tragedy is anything more than an accident, then those who played a role in the contributing issues should feel regret and be held accountable if necessary.
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  Apostate Story @ New York Times

  by DannyHaszard in

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  three times a week in the kingdom hall in miami, my brother and i strove to sit perfectly still in our chairs.

  our mother carried a wooden spoon in her purse and was quick to take us outside for beatings if we fidgeted.

  i sat onstage in the kingdom hall in surrey, england, where my father's job had taken us.

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  Brooklyn Bethel will see the story in The New York Times. The WT has researchers at Bethel that read a lot of media. The WT has used quotes from The New York Times in their publications. They will see this story and they won't care.