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it's my birthday today!

by termite 35 in

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it's my birthday today and i'm just off out for a drink (or maybe a few !

) with some friends; i've opened all my presents and i'm so happy i'm having birthdays again !.

happy birthday to lilacs and cassilines son, it's theirs today too

* silentlambs discussion forums: NEWS!! *

by Focus in

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please see: http://www.lambsroar.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=1387#1387.

posted: fri dec 13, 2002 1:54 pm post subject: silentlambs forums to be terminated .

i am sad to announce the silentlambs discussion forums will be terminated as of midnight sunday.

So sorry that a handful of jerks come in the forum and destroy what is positive about Silent Lambs. I support the abuse survivors and wish your site well. Please keep up the good work on Silent Lambs.

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Personal Attacks

by Yizuman in

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first of all i made a retraction on my request for help, you people who have attacked me have ignored it.

secondly i made a public apology to simon, you people who have attacked me have ignored it.

those of you know who i am talking about, i publically ask that you stop the personal attacks and leave me alone.

Yizuman

First of all I made a retraction on my request for help, you people who have attacked me have ignored it.

Secondly I made a public apology to Simon, you people who have attacked me have ignored it.

Those of you know who I am talking about, I publically ask that you stop the personal attacks and leave me alone.

Personal attacks is against Simon's rules on this forum and you have ignored it. Read his FAQ.

Thank you.

Edited by - Yizuman on 13 December 2002 19:11:5

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Population of Deaf JWs

by Yizuman in

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anyone have any idea what the exact numbers there are with deaf jws?

just curious how many there worldwide?.

anyone still on the inside able to get that information?.

Yizuman

Before I left the WTS, I was very involved with the Deaf. We had a Deaf Bookstudy in our home, and also ASL classes were taught to those interested in the congregations in our circuit. The lady giving the instruction was very well known and dedicated to the Deaf. We often had Bethelites come and give lessons. I used to feel sorry for the familes who were divided between hearing and ASL assemblies.

Well I support segregation between the deaf world and the hearing world. Bunching them together in the same room generates problems simply because alot of ignorant hearing people don't understand the deaf community. Therefore they lash out at what they don't understand to the deaf community. It generates resentments towards the hearing world and that's not healthy.

When I went to the Center on Deafness, they taught me how to understand the hearing world and my old worldview towards the hearing world has changed. I no longer resent the hearing world, I feel sorry for them instead. CoD also taught me how to make a stand against the hearing world when I am being discriminated against and know my rights as a deaf individual. So, instead of getting into fist fights likes I used to in my old school before I joined CoD, I will use the law such as ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) to defend my rights and if neccessary, take them to court. There's also hate crime laws that I will use against anyone who ridicule me for simply being deaf.

I am a human being just like everyone else and I have the right be treated as one.

Edited by - Yizuman on 13 December 2002 8:16:14

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Population of Deaf JWs

by Yizuman in

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anyone have any idea what the exact numbers there are with deaf jws?

just curious how many there worldwide?.

anyone still on the inside able to get that information?.

Yizuman

I was interpreting in Montreal Canada but now I live half way across the country in Winnipeg.

Cool, I know of a few friends whom I chat online that is from Canada. I would love to give Canada a visit one day.

I had used my sign language a few times where I work (with either the homeless or battered women) but don't get much chance anymore. After I left the JWs I had a few jobs working with the deaf community in Montreal through McKay Centre of interpreting for students in university and college. I also had a job working in a deaf community organization.

That's great to hear.

I have not gotten certified so my ability to work in the deaf community now is limited.

You should. Here in the US, alot of the interpreters makes $45.00 to $90.00 an hour, depending on where they are interpreting at. So, I'm sure it comes close to that in Canadian dollars there.

I have to wonder about the previous post about the deaf joining to get their hearing back. I have never met a born-deaf JW want to hear. Most are a little afraid of that. In Montreal there was a deaf woman (not JW) who went for an implant and did get her hearing but she hated it and most deaf I know would refuse the surgery

Yes, it was odd to hear recruiters using this theme to say "they will get their hearing back" if they became members of the Jehovah's Organization.

As for the surgery, I don't think it works for everyone. However, many have posted their concerns about this surgery in the Deaf Forum because they are afraid that this type of surgery is destroying the deaf culture that we all know today. Many doctors are recommending this type of surgery on the young, such as young as 1 year and up. If it becomes manditory for them to have this type of surgery, the deaf community that we know today could shrink. Some would say that's progress, but to us, it may generate alot more harm than good.

Like I said, I don't think the surgery will work for everyone. Some may be too stone deaf and the surgery will be worthless for them.

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Population of Deaf JWs

by Yizuman in

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anyone have any idea what the exact numbers there are with deaf jws?

just curious how many there worldwide?.

anyone still on the inside able to get that information?.

Yizuman

Ignore the few who comes to the board and poke fun of the deaf community. Apparently there is a few here on this forum that has a problem with the deaf community, which is beyond to my comprehention(s?) as to understanding why. I hate no hate for them, I just feel sorry for them.

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Jesus Sacrifice - How Stupid and Illogical

by MrMoe in

jesus dying for our sins... um, why.. because adam made a mistake?

based upon what?

jehovah's rules?

Yizuman

For those of you that questions his love and sacrice of his only Begotten Son...

Let me ask you this question..but first...let me illustrate this story....

A man who's occupation is a draw bridge operator. He opens the bridge to allow the boats to cross under the bridge and closes the bridge to allow the train to cross over the bridge.

One day he brought his son over to visit where he works. The little boy is having fun watching boats float on by and the train crossing the bridge. The son, unbeknowist(s?) to the father, wandered off while the father is busy working on maintaining the equiptments. Then he sees that a train is coming, so he gets ready to throw a switch to close the bridge, but to his horror he sees his son had crawled under the bridge and there is no room to keep his son from being crushed if he closed the bridge.

The train is coming and he can't run out and pull his son out and then close the bridge in time for the train to cross over the bridge and there isn't time for the train to stop for it will derail and kill 200+ people on board.

The father had to make a decision and he had to make it quick. He had 2 choices, leave the bridge up to save his son and allow the train to derail and kill all the people on board or close the bridge and kill his son in the process so that the people on board the train could cross over safely.

He made his decision. He threw the switch and started banging on the window screaming and crying. The people who looked out the window saw him and saw his arms flailing and thought he was waving at them, they waved back at him. Not know the sacrifice he made to save them.

My question is this, if you were in the same exact position and faced the same dilemma as he did, which choice would you make?

God had 2 choices, he could have simply sent 10,000 angels to save his son from the cross (or stake, however you ever want to believe, it doesn't matter) and allow us all to die in our sins, or allow his son to be crucified so that billions of souls could have a chance at being saved from their sins.

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Jesus Sacrifice - How Stupid and Illogical

by MrMoe in

jesus dying for our sins... um, why.. because adam made a mistake?

based upon what?

jehovah's rules?

Yizuman

MrMoe - Calvinist - Do me a favor. Proove the accuracy of the bible. Why should Lilacs even buy into the heaven and hell concept? The bible is a book, not something to live by. Now, proove the bible is accurate, proove it is the "Word of God." Give it your best shot.

There's a great book called "Evidence that Demands a Verdict".

Evidence That Demands a Verdict is an easy-to-read, front-line defense for Christians facing the tough questions of critics and skeptics. Using secular evidences and other historical sources.....

The proof you want is there in this book...

Here's a link to Amazon

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Jesus Sacrifice - How Stupid and Illogical

by MrMoe in

jesus dying for our sins... um, why.. because adam made a mistake?

based upon what?

jehovah's rules?

Yizuman

czarofmischief - God cannot become man. Solomon said that the heavens themselve could not contain his grandeur, so the shell of a human being could not. Only a representative could fit.

Why? Are you saying that God is limited and he can't do anything? Not even become man and die for us?

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MORE 'HOVAH HATE MAIL

by TR in

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you and your heathen apostate brothers are nothing but the spawn of satan the devil.

jehovah's purpose will take place and then you will know who is the most high.. .

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Yizuman

Why is Simon's email on the return path?

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